Anyways, my ranting is done on this topic. Ok bye.

MisterCMK;162609 wrote:
What is so hard about cleaning off the snowbank at the end of your driveway? That little mythical atachment you speak of will not only cost the taxpayers more money but it will also slow down the plowing. It takes a snow-plow 20 seconds to cruise down a street and take care of the snow. This attachment would have the initial cost to purchase it, install it and maintain it. Now in addition to that, you have to train drivers on how to use it. Now if they don't use it on one person's driveway they sure as hell are going to bitch about it. The driver will not be able to go as fast down the street as they have to use the lever to operate the damn thing. Instead of 20 seconds to clear one side of the block you are looking at 45 seconds or a minute. Multiply this additional time by every single street in Fargo that needs to be cleared and you have a helluva lot of extra time and manpower to clear the streets.

That attachment you speak of is pointless. Get off yer lazy ass and shovel the damn driveway.

For the record I shovel my driveway and sidewalks EVERY time it snows. And you have NO clue what kid of a person I am so how do you get off calling me lazy? Since I own my own house, I have to shovel, and clearing out a 2 foot deep pile of snow thats compacted from being driven on, and about 4 feet wide at the end of the driveway, gets old REALLY fast. If its something you don't mind doing, then come on over and do it. Obviously you wouldn't do it for someone else because it is, in fact, a pain in the ass.

dubbsy;162615 wrote:
so that doubles or triples the time it takes to plow the street and people would start bitching because the streets aren't being plowed fast enough...

...and then they'll bitch when the taxes go up so the city can fund upgrading their 20 year old trucks and short staff.

The plows I saw using this device didn't go one bit slower than the ones without it. Prove it to me that it would take them 3 times as long.

SmitEvo;162690 wrote:
I have never known too many city employees to be hard workers...;)

That is true for a lot of them...but there are some that actually work their asses off. It was bs that the main roads werent plowed, I couldnt drive anywhere's till yesterday, not the plows fault it's the City supervisors that were gay on that one.

Sorry bout the ranting but i've worked for the city doing road maintainance and had to listen to whiny people, and have heard about all the shit my dad puts up with when he's plowing. Some people just cant be satisfied. Would u rather have the city just say the hell with it and leave all the snow on the roads, be happy with what you get.

treimche;162600 wrote:
This is an AWESOME comparison! Thank you. Thats a great way to explain my point on how they could do a better job.

Never did I once say they need to come clean off my driveway. Can you please show me where I said that? I said they need the little things that go on the one end of the plow, so that they can put it down while they're plowing in front of a driveway, so they don't put a 2 foot pile of snow there. And for the record I know of a place where they do this exact thing, its in Minot. When I lived w/ my parents there, I watched the snow plows do this MANY MANY times. How hard can that be? Oh no I have to pull a lever every 10 seconds while I drive down some streets.

so that doubles or triples the time it takes to plow the street and people would start bitching because the streets aren't being plowed fast enough...

...and then they'll bitch when the taxes go up so the city can fund upgrading their 20 year old trucks and short staff.

treimche;162600 wrote:
Never did I once say they need to come clean off my driveway. Can you please show me where I said that? I said they need the little things that go on the one end of the plow, so that they can put it down while they're plowing in front of a driveway, so they don't put a 2 foot pile of snow there. And for the record I know of a place where they do this exact thing, its in Minot. When I lived w/ my parents there, I watched the snow plows do this MANY MANY times. How hard can that be? Oh no I have to pull a lever every 10 seconds while I drive down some streets.

What is so hard about cleaning off the snowbank at the end of your driveway? That little mythical atachment you speak of will not only cost the taxpayers more money but it will also slow down the plowing. It takes a snow-plow 20 seconds to cruise down a street and take care of the snow. This attachment would have the initial cost to purchase it, install it and maintain it. Now in addition to that, you have to train drivers on how to use it. Now if they don't use it on one person's driveway they sure as hell are going to bitch about it. The driver will not be able to go as fast down the street as they have to use the lever to operate the damn thing. Instead of 20 seconds to clear one side of the block you are looking at 45 seconds or a minute. Multiply this additional time by every single street in Fargo that needs to be cleared and you have a helluva lot of extra time and manpower to clear the streets.

That attachment you speak of is pointless. Get off yer lazy ass and shovel the damn driveway.

inspector01;162565 wrote:
If you paid for someone to work on your car, and they were slow and doing an unsatisfactory job, and you complained about them, should it be your job to do the work you paid for.....I know it isn't an exact comparison, and i agree they could lighten up on them a bit, but it is the same concept. Just my thoughts on it.

This is an AWESOME comparison! Thank you. Thats a great way to explain my point on how they could do a better job.

MisterCMK;162568 wrote:
I can't think of one place where they clean off the end of your driveway as well. Get over it you whiny bitches. It would take then 20x as long to clean off your driveway as well.

fuggin whiners

Never did I once say they need to come clean off my driveway. Can you please show me where I said that? I said they need the little things that go on the one end of the plow, so that they can put it down while they're plowing in front of a driveway, so they don't put a 2 foot pile of snow there. And for the record I know of a place where they do this exact thing, its in Minot. When I lived w/ my parents there, I watched the snow plows do this MANY MANY times. How hard can that be? Oh no I have to pull a lever every 10 seconds while I drive down some streets.

bubba;162575 wrote:
And for those whining about your driveways, if they cleaned every driveway, they'd still be working for the first snowfall of the year, it's just something they cant help.

werd. Like I said before, I can't think of a single place where they make sure that your driveway doesn't have a huge ass snowbank

fuggin whiners

inspector01;162560 wrote:
these people pay for it already so why should it be there responsibility to do the work they already paid for..

Because they are the ones bitching would be my guess.

naturalbornkeller;162548 wrote:
All you guys that are bitching should get out your shovels and clean the streets yourselves. The city works hard at cleaning the streets. They have a hard time keeping up due to the rapid growth and being under budget, not to mention keeping all the equipment in working order. So get out there and start shoveling if you think you could do better, would you rather they did nothing at all? Come on, think a little bit before you start complaining, or better yet, be a MAN and take it in stride. Thank you, that is all.

I believe that everyone on here is paying for those plows, and the people to drive them. Now i agree you could go easy on them cuz they do get underfunded and whatnot, but these people pay for it already so why should it be there responsibility to do the work they already paid for. Thank you.