amicheze;175128 wrote:
In GENERAL, I have to agree. I've been tailgated and almost run off the road more times BY FAR by big trucks than by cars. Just the other day I was driving down 17th ave going about 30 (in a 25) being tailed by a truck that was literally two feet from my bumper. Then the fucker had the nerve to start honking at me, I assume to make me go faster. The sad part is, thats nowhere near the first time something like that has happened.

I've had less of a problem with stupid high school kids with "super fast" civics. Granted I'm sure it's just the same type of deal as with the import crowd - a few ruin the image of the many - but still. It pisses me off when people that drive huge gas guzzlers that get 3mpg think they own the road.

I usually get tailgated like that in my civic and if they honk I slow down to about 20 mph just to really piss them off.....but to tell you the truth I do plan to lift my truck and put big tires on it....and suprisingly enough it was getting roughly 16 mph in town with my programming on there and a 400hp/450ft.lb. torque motor. I'd hate to be stereotyped as a hick though, but I suppose it's better than the assholes with the diesels that just have to get their faggot ass pipe right next to my window when I have it rolled down......now that's gayer than a bag of dicks and really gets me wishing I had a shotgun in the back seat.

zbrown;175517 wrote:
so what happens if i am obviously a redneck and ricer?

zbrown;175517 wrote:
so what happens if i am obviously a redneck and ricer?

and yet the mileage of the cummins is nearly double of the wankel??... haha

Me also. I have a lifted SUV with exhaust and a ricer. That means that I have the best of both worlds!

and yet the mileage of the cummins is nearly double of the wankel??... haha

Parker;175509 wrote:
im going to build a lowered truck for my next project.... just out of spite

And I'll run it over in my Explorer.

MisterCMK;175463 wrote:
Hmm....

Funny the similarities, isn't it?

• True True, but anyways, To each his own. Each vehicle type "lifted,lowered, tuner, etc" will have its fag members. THeres nothing you can do about it. I have friends that fall into each catagory and they're all pretty cool guys. Its just the few assclowns that give the rest a bad name.

DrifterExtreme;175437 wrote:
umm... do you realy care enough about this subject to acually respond in your some what inteligent yet clearly biased way?

umm are ppl doushes that own riced out hondas? about 99% of them YES

do they have excessively loud exhuast's? YES

does anyone car if you are the "exception" to the norm? NO..NO..NO

can we all stop chiming in with our own version to nit pick the ppl posting about these jackass ricers....

also thrash can you please GTFO and STFO as you are sounding more retarded with each post....

Hmm....

Funny the similarities, isn't it?

DrifterExtreme;175437 wrote:
umm... do you realy care enough about this subject to acually respond in your some what inteligent yet clearly biased way?

umm are ppl doushes that own lifted truck? about 99% of them YES

do they have excessively loud exhuast's? YES

does anyone car if you are the "exception" to the norm? NO..NO..NO

can we all stop chiming in with our own version to nit pick the ppl posting about these jackass truck drivers....

also thrash can you please GTFO and STFO as you are sounding more retarded with each post....

wait, english?

That's what i get for jumping into a rant thread

thrash;175325 wrote:
Lifted trucks don't bother me. Lowered trucks.. that's a special kind of ghetto that I never would have imagined could exist. Lowered trucks are like the trifecta of dipshitness... none of the advantages of a car... none of the advantages of a truck. Good job, ass clown.

I'm guessing you've never driven or rode in a lowered dually pulling a trailer. There is nothing wrong, redneck or hillbilly about spending money to have a nice ride. There are other reasons to lower a truck especially 2wd, mainly if that's what a person wants. If you consider somebody with diferent opinions than yours, an ass clown, then maybe your just too good for guys in that crowd.:icon_thumright:

DrifterExtreme;175437 wrote:
umm... do you realy care enough about this subject to acually respond in your some what inteligent yet clearly biased way?

umm are ppl doushes that own lifted truck? about 99% of them YES

do they have excessively loud exhuast's? YES

does anyone car if you are the "exception" to the norm? NO..NO..NO

can we all stop chiming in with our own version to nit pick the ppl posting about these jackass truck drivers....

also thrash can you please GTFO and STFO as you are sounding more retarded with each post....

+1

Thrash: Who really gives a rats ass? Seriously. Let him do his thing you do yours and appreciate the work that he has done to his TRUCK and coexist peacefully. All your doing is getting people to hate you cause your being a bitch about something little. How many people do you see carrying 2 tons worth of dirt in there mini truck? They aren't made to do the work of a bigger truck. SO, im gonna guess that the guys who do mini trucks really don't care about not being able to haul ass loads of shit.

umm are ppl doushes that own lifted truck? about 99% of them YES

do they have excessively loud exhuast's? YES

does anyone car if you are the "exception" to the norm? NO..NO..NO

can we all stop chiming in with our own version to nit pick the ppl posting about these jackass truck drivers....

also thrash can you please GTFO and STFO as you are sounding more retarded with each post....

Parker;175430 wrote:
so how does lowering a truck take away from its cargo/carrying capacity?.... its lower... so what, you cant put shit in the back any more?.... you cant tow a trailer?.... um i think not.... i for one do not car if a truck is lowered or raised..... and if done right, lowered trucks can handle better than most sports cars.... you just seem to be talking out your ass..... why dont you bash lowered trucks when you have done some more research... until then shut up, you dont know what you are talking about.....

im sorry in i have singled you out.... but it just pisses me off when people THINK they know what they are talking about... dont take it personaly... but you are wrong.....
/goodnight

The springs and rear suspension of a truck have a fair bit to do with its carrying capacity, do they not? Changing the ride height (and suspension travel) has a defacto effect on the load capacity.

what research do you suggest i do? what objective data do you have to backup your surprising claim that "done right, a lowered truck will outhandle most sports cars"? Where are all of the lightly modified trucks tearing up racetracks in the US? You should inform all those stupid 911 drivers that they'd be better off with a lowered pickup, instead of using a normal height pickup to tow their race cars

You seem to be emotionally disagreeing with me. While my original post is mostly a judgemental criticism, the specific deficiencies i listed later still stand - if you want to suggest that I'm wrong on any of them, please name them and then make reasonable arguments..

im sorry in i have singled you out.... but it just pisses me off when people THINK they know what they are talking about... dont take it personaly... but you are wrong.....
/goodnight

roadracer;175419 wrote:
Lifted trucks don't bother me. Lowered trucks.. that's a special kind of ghetto that I never would have imagined could exist. Lowered trucks are like the trifecta of dipshitness... none of the advantages of a car... none of the advantages of a truck. Good job, ass clown.

and what exactly is your point?? who do you think got the major customizing bug started. it started with small trucks out on the west coast. we were just a predecessor to your tuner cars.

i don't know what the history of west coast customizing was, but it's not frankly relevant. trucks are inferior to cars except for their harsh-climate (i.e. unimproved road / land) abilities and cargo/carrying capacity.

Lowering a truck removes both of those advantages, leaving you only with all of the disadvantages trucks have w.r.t. cars.

it takes a special breed to drive a lowered truck.

Looks like we agree. We probably disagree on what breed that is, exactly

so i say to you specifically, what advantage over my mini does your tuner have? i can perform the same mods, put the same tires, same stereo, same lights, same body kits. whats your advantage??

well, i don't quite know what a "tuner" is, but i doubt that i have one. In any case, i'll just replace "tuner" with "car" and take it from there

my vehice will have

1. lower center of gravity
2. better weight distribution
3. better rear suspension design
4. probably a better front suspension design
5. stiffer chassis
6. better drag coefficient

When I see a lowered pickup successfully competing in SCCA national events along side sedans and coupes, I'll consider changing my opinion.

(fwiw: I'm aware that there are "truck races". That's different than going head to head with cars under the same power / tire rules)

and what exactly is your point?? who do you think got the major customizing bug started. it started with small trucks out on the west coast. we were just a predecessor to your tuner cars. it takes a special breed to drive a lowered truck. so i say to you specifically, what advantage over my mini does your tuner have? i can perform the same mods, put the same tires, same stereo, same lights, same body kits. whats your advantage??

KA-T_240;175322 wrote:
I know i am not a Ford guy. But that is NOT a diesel, or even a HD truck.

I own a lifted SUV with exhuast, and am not a redneck. I also actaully use my 4wd actaully AWD.

I didn't mean all pictured were diesels, I meant some. Tardo...

1. i don't really understand why people lower trucks, because the overwhelming majority of trucks are not performance vehicles, and lowering them seems to undermine their utility functions

2. i dislike trucks with loud exhausts for similar reasons - very few trucks are high performance vehicles, so the loud can is more about being obnoxious than any real benefit, IMO. Certainly trucks are not unique in this -- most harley's and some civics are also way louder than they need to be.

I tend to think of trucks only as work/utility vehicles.. and that they are generally inferior to cars for getting around town, any sort of performance driving, etc. I couldn't imagine commuting in a truck but lots of people seem to do it.

Hopefully this is worded in a way that it is clear that i am making generalizations that allow for people to be exceptional cases

StangerBanger96;175200 wrote:
These are the types of trucks I'm mostly talking about...

Raider, your truck by no means fits the description of the type of truck I'm talking about. And yes, I know I have diesel trucks pictured, but I usually don't classify a Diesel truck or a supercharged truck in the same category as what I'm talking about. Diesel & SRT10 & Lighting & Raiders Truck > what i'm talking about.

I know i am not a Ford guy. But that is NOT a diesel, or even a HD truck.

I own a lifted SUV with exhuast, and am not a redneck. I also actaully use my 4wd actaully AWD.