zbrown;208817 wrote:
I don't even know how you guys are comparing the Z06 to the R35......

it is not even really close, just look at the stock power:weights

If you stuck some stickies on the vette it would work the R35 on any type of course/racing you could think of....

sorry physics doen't lie........... weight FTL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times

The R35 has a better published Nurburgring lap time than any corvette.

The LF-A prototype is even faster, apparently, but not listed in the above lap chart.

It may be that the Vette can throw down a faster lap, but it hasn't yet done so. Nissan understood all along that the target car for the R35 was the 997 Turbo, and that that to get respect you run at the Nurburgring. They did that and the R35 delivered.

GM either doesn't get it, does't have the car to do it, or doesn't care. It's worth noting that the CTS-V was heavily tuned there, so its not inconceivable that the Vette got some of the same treatment..

Afsil80;208818 wrote:
^ True.

still slammed the C6-Z on interior

LOL, I can vouche

the one i drove was loud and rough......... very tight though

added to the experience

I'm interested to see how 450 awhp + technology will match up against 500 rwhp + rip-the-seat-off-your-pants-torque.

I've got the issue of C&D where the Z06 faced off against the 997 Turbo and F430. The Vette ran faster lap times, dusted both on the highway, but C&D still slammed the C6-Z on interior and braking, and placed the car in third! I can understand braking, and yes, the Ferrari interior is FAR superior, but still...

I'm not hating on the Z06. It is the best performance car for the money, no questions. All I am saying is that I am eager to see if the GT-R can take that title away from it.

Nissan has a battle ahead of it because of the fact that they're Nissan, and not Ferrari, TVR, Jaguar, or any of the other supercar-esque namesakes. People looking for cars in that price range are going to have a hard time looking beyond the name unless they are a true enthusiast, which is the group that ALL GT-R's have been made for, IMO.

it is not even really close, just look at the stock power:weights

If you stuck some stickies on the vette it would work the R35 on any type of course/racing you could think of....

sorry physics doen't lie........... weight FTL

Seriously, this thread should be called "what's faster, my astrovan or my malibu" cause it makes just about as much sense.

The R35 like it or hate it is a supercar. So get over your penis waving and just realize that it's an incredible machine that eats roads.

capitlj;208651 wrote:
If we are comparing apples to apples the ZR-1 is the one you have to look at for competition for the GTR just because of the price tags.

What the hell are you talking about? GT-R has same price as Z06.

The GT-R is being labeled as the car that is faster than the 911 Turbo at less cost. That was their intent, and they achieved it. Nissan didn't set the Z06 as their goal because the 911 and GT-R have been rivals in the European racing circles. You never hear about this because the majority of everyone in the USA cares about NASCAR and drag racing.

Pony_Racer;208650 wrote:

Looks like a bug. Fugly IMO. I'd still take an R33.

Sweet Ass car in person though....:D

Point is, nobody on here can drive a GT-R or a Z06 at 10/10ths. It's a matter of what you like, and I think the GT-R offers a lot to like.

It will be interesting to see what they do to them in the US market -- in Japan the car is ridiculous... the ECU is tied into a GPS receiver.. you cannot exceed a certain speed unless you're at a known race track. Immediately after going to the track you need a "post track" service at a Nissan dealer for $1k.. wheels cannot be changed, etc etc. Total cock-up IMO.

It remains to be seen what kind of gayness accompanies the GT-R in the USA.

Afsil80;208623 wrote:
^ There's more than straight line performance, you know...

I don't even care about straight line performance.

I bet the Z06 will still be on level with the GTR.

Besides, we should be comparing the Zr1 vetter to the GTR

Afsil80;208613 wrote:
Jeeez...y'all are forgetting that EVERYONE thought Skylines were ugly until 2 Fast 2 Furious. Then everyone jums on the R34 bandwagon, hardly realizing there was even an R33 in the first one, haha.

They ain't made to be pretty. They're designed the way they are to incorporate superior aerodynamics, and guess what! The GT-R has a lower drag coefficiency than the Z06.

The GT-R is faster than the 911 Turbo on the Nurburgring, which was Nissan's target. The Z06 will fall to it in performance. Sales, however...I know that all the GT-R's are going fast. FL had all preorder slots filled at the beginning of the year. Whether it will beat the Z06, who knows.

And y'all are calling the GT-R a pig...shit, a C6 ain't a featherweight either, ya know.

I still think the R34 is ugly.

Also, The regular C6 only weighs in a 3240 lbs. It's only 100 lbs more than the Z06 at 3132 lbs. Neither one are pigs when comparing it to a 3900 lb car.

I disagree that the Z06 will fall to it in performance.

Nissan has said "the GT-R will accelerate from zero to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds, finish the quarter-mile in 11.7 seconds "

So there is probably a chance some good driver will get better out of it, but I don't think it will take the Z06.

They ain't made to be pretty. They're designed the way they are to incorporate superior aerodynamics, and guess what! The GT-R has a lower drag coefficiency than the Z06.

The GT-R is faster than the 911 Turbo on the Nurburgring, which was Nissan's target. The Z06 will fall to it in performance. Sales, however...I know that all the GT-R's are going fast. FL had all preorder slots filled at the beginning of the year. Whether it will beat the Z06, who knows.

And y'all are calling the GT-R a pig...shit, a C6 ain't a featherweight either, ya know.