thrash;271597 wrote:
Jim, the only one of those that is a technical difference is the issue of the tracker. The rest are non-technical, which is entirely my point. This case isn't an issue of what TPB has done, it's how they've done it.

It's an issue of saving face for the parties involved, not of any particular action or technology.

Incidentally, how does google "remove files"? Are you referring to gootube? Does google actually axe entries out of its search index?

Running a tracker for torrents is a HUGE difference then simply indexing files.

Google will remove direct infringement's to somebodies copyright if requested (yes, indexed files, and yes it is a technical difference as they have infrastructure setup to remove these files); so I would again say that this is a HUGE difference between TPB and Google...

I'd like to see TPB win, the RIAA and MPAA are antiquated and the tactics they use ridiculous... but Google = TPB argument just don't hold with me.

It's an issue of saving face for the parties involved, not of any particular action or technology.

Incidentally, how does google "remove files"? Are you referring to gootube? Does google actually axe entries out of its search index?

Jim;271500 wrote:
Google doesn't run a tracker. Google removes files at copyright holders request. Google doesn't mock the copyright olders... lol

True, but there is still a great deal of torrents you can download via Google.

thrash;271495 wrote:
Challenge: describe the technical difference between the pirate bay and google.

Hint: try typing "filetype:torrent" at the beginning of a google search

[i know. there is no direct way for a person to upload torrents "to google"].

Google doesn't run a tracker. Google removes files at copyright holders request. Google doesn't mock the copyright olders... lol

Hint: try typing "filetype:torrent" at the beginning of a google search

[i know. there is no direct way for a person to upload torrents "to google"].

basically, a paradigm shift, in this particular scenario, would be to get away from "enabling" being equated with "responsibility". to say that the pirate bay is empowering users to infringe on copyright is the same as saying that the internet service providers are too, or that chuck is responsible for all of his customers losing their hearing.

the paradigm that we need to change is that there is somewhere else to point the finger of blame, not to look in the mirror. the music, film, and electronic game industries experience disproportionately high amounts of copyright infringement (thought, they would have us believe these numbers are far greater than they really are), but that is also because they demand prices for their products that are obscenely high, given the actual cost of distribution and the quality of the product. add the dmca to the mix and the abuse/extortion of the mafiaa (music and film industry association of america), and what do you get? revolution.