torbs;300184 wrote:
A 3.5 w/o trying...Is it just me, or does that sound like something is wrong with the public education system?

I agree with the public education problems. they do a very poor job in preparing people for college.

torbs;300184 wrote:
A 3.5 w/o trying...Is it just me, or does that sound like something is wrong with the public education system?

thats what happens when you cant leave anyone behind... you gotta set the bar a little lower.

i took calc my soph summer and it was the best decision i ever made. we had a quiz every other day and a test every week. i couldnt understand a word the man said through his accent but it was condensed and repetitious enough i actually learned the material. if i didnt have to work through the summer to pay bills i would have taken a lot more summer classes.

torbs;300184 wrote:
A 3.5 w/o trying...Is it just me, or does that sound like something is wrong with the public education system?

I did the same... if i did my homework it was right before class, never studied at all... got a 3.5, and i wasn't even taking the easy classes either (was always a year or two ahead of my class in math, was a year ahead anyways in school, and liked to take the advanced classes).. But like Joel said it fucks you when you get to college, generals are easy but when u actually get into your major and have to study, I sucked it up at first...

torbs;300184 wrote:
A 3.5 w/o trying...Is it just me, or does that sound like something is wrong with the public education system?
agreed!

Joel;300157 wrote:
JN, one piece of advice. Learn how to study while your still in Highschool. I graduated with a 3.5 because I skated through high school taking all of the easiest classes. Hell, I even graduated a semester early. Never studied for tests, never did homework etc. I got a 24 on my ACTs. I got to NDSU thinking it was going to be the same... WRONG. It took one semester for me to decide I needed something else before taking classes again. I had a 12 credit load. Dropped 6 of those credits, and got C's in the others.

A 3.5 w/o trying...Is it just me, or does that sound like something is wrong with the public education system?

the way to best prepare for a religion 3xx exam may not be to reread the assigned pages several times, but to discuss it with classmates. with pseudo-sciences and soft topics, the best approach is often a cursory understanding followed by dialogue with a handful of others that are in a similar position, and then re-examine the material that still seems unclear. stuff like history, math, and chemistry are largely dependent upon mnemonic devices and brute memory.

JN, dont worry about being a smart kid. This just means you have to work a little harder. like i said, I got a 17 on my ACT's (which I am embaressed about by the way) But I have worked really hard and now I am sitting at a 3.47 GPA in Industrail Engineering and will graduate next fall.

As for the summer classes go, I have never been a fan of them. basic algrebra (im guessing math 103) wouldnt be bad at all, but trig or calc I would not recommend). It all depends on how fast you learn and how disciplined you are.

I have taken a total of 29 credits worth of summer classes. Notes to take on it:

1. The summer tuition cap is 9 credits instead of the usual 12 and you can take up to 15 credits for the price of 9 if you can somehow pull of no self-support classes (classes that don't qualify under the tuition cap)
2. They are much more condensed. They are very fast paced. I found this helpful...if you have a class with 4 exams that's during the 4 week first session, you just take an exam at the end of each week (material is fresh in your mind) instead of one every 4 weeks.
3. They are often times lesser versions of fall/spring semesters...As in if you take a course that normally has a lab with it, you may not have to take the lab but you still get credit for it (I did this with CJ 325)
4. Also, sometimes professors just cover less material as well. It varies class by class, however.

I can't emphasize how much I encourage summer classes. If you only want to do the usual 2 semesters/year that a lot of people do, you can save yourself a lot of time as taking 12 credits in the summer is done in 9-10 weeks (one 4 week session with 2 classes, one 5-6 week session of two classes) instead of the usual 16 weeks (think of it as getting 6 weeks off and getting the same amount of work done). Speaking of which, this means you take fewer classes at a time. I find this helpful as I prefer to focus my studies on a limited amount of courses as opposed to broad.

Any other questions?

Bp-08;300132 wrote:
Lol, ive seen kids dumb as a box of rocks accepted to NDSU. Pretty much anybody can get in. This isnt yale.

true, I just dont think im the smartest in the world and NDSU makes itself out to be the best ever (or from how people talk about it) so Id love to get into NDSU but we will see how my ACT comes back.

PSiedTSi;300134 wrote:
18 on your ACT is basically the only real requirement. They also require an extra math and science class over the HS standards I believe.

If someone can't get this they are pretty retarded...

I took some summer classes, was fairly easy, but sucked being in the same class for 2 1/2hrs a day straight every day... It made for a long day going to class 9-1130 then work 1230-930, then trying to go out on weeknights...

Bp-08;300132 wrote:
Lol, ive seen kids dumb as a box of rocks accepted to NDSU. Pretty much anybody can get in. This isnt yale.

18 on your ACT is basically the only real requirement. They also require an extra math and science class over the HS standards I believe.

JN210;300131 wrote:
I was wondering, since we are on the topic of NDSU, how hard is it to be accepted? I sent an app. to MSCTC to start with buisness, but was wondering about NDSU.

Lol, ive seen kids dumb as a box of rocks accepted to NDSU. Pretty much anybody can get in. This isnt yale.