SPANISH-RICE;323183 wrote:
yea i figured it was more of a tanker mix up or some residual left in there but its the fact that its not the first time with them and it wasnt always THAT fuel weve found in vehicles. Ive seen a handful of vehicles with water in the fuel come from there. As mush as I would say forgive and forget normally, these were expensive repairs and the title of the thread is "stations with bad gas". I think with multiple occurances we shouldnt just blow it off as a tanker mix up and people in this thread should know of the issue.

thanks spanish

good to know

SPANISH-RICE;323043 wrote:
i dont want to completely bash luvs in south fargo becuase it seems like a really nice place, but ive dealt with a few issues from them. i have seen multiple vehicles come from there in the short time that they have been open that wouldnt even run because of water and other " fluids" in the tanks. I have a picture of a fuel sample we took from a 2011 accord that had low tax canadian ag fuel. im at work so no image hosting but ill try and remember tonight.

the other chemicals would likely be more of the tankers that refuel them making a mistake than Love's itself. I'm pretty sure they get their fuel from the same refinery as everyone else does.

As for ethanol blends, I've run E30 in the past when I had my STi and didn't notice any real negatives as far as fuel economy goes. Butt dyno seemed to not notice any noticeable changes either.....then again, I haven't had that thing calibrated in years. Only reason I ran/tried E30 was because it was cheaper by about $.25/gallon

thrash;323139 wrote:
E10 gas has lower combustion energy than non-oxygenated fuel, and on older cars or small engines that aren't using modern rubber formulations, the ethanol content "can" be problematic. I beleive there are also water absorption and shelf-life disadvantages to even low concentrations like E10.

Obviously nobody argues with the great power you can get on E85 for specially prepared setups. But putting E10 in unmodified engines isn't done for any benefit to you.

The fact that you use it in MN because of law instead of because lots of people wanted it should tell you all you need to know.

Exactly.

Obviously nobody argues with the great power you can get on E85 for specially prepared setups. But putting E10 in unmodified engines isn't done for any benefit to you.

The fact that you use it in MN because of law instead of because lots of people wanted it should tell you all you need to know.

Bp-08;323102 wrote:
my truck started having problems after filling up a couple times at loves, i usually go to cash wise never had any problems there, and fyi dont use ethanol in your lawnmowers and weedeaters, i have ordered a ton of carbs, in the last few days, gas is just getting shittier and shittier.

I use premium in mine with no ethanol so it doesnt create any gummy goo

ichibankilla;323098 wrote:
I was thinking that was water but wasn't sure, I guess reading owns me.

I've had excessive moisture coming out of my exhaust as of lately and until yesterday I was filling up at Loaf & Jug on 25th.
Last week I was doing a little cleaning on the fuel rail, regulator and what not and decided to pull the fuel line from the filter to the rail and shoot some carb cleaner though it, the stuff that came out looked identical to the layer of water in the sample.
I have since filled up elsewhere, after running the tank low, and my car seems to be running a lot better.

L&J on 25th has terrible fuel. I am in there all the time but wont buy gas there.

I've had excessive moisture coming out of my exhaust as of lately and until yesterday I was filling up at Loaf & Jug on 25th.
Last week I was doing a little cleaning on the fuel rail, regulator and what not and decided to pull the fuel line from the filter to the rail and shoot some carb cleaner though it, the stuff that came out looked identical to the layer of water in the sample.
I have since filled up elsewhere, after running the tank low, and my car seems to be running a lot better.

SPANISH-RICE;323043 wrote:
i dont want to completely bash luvs in south fargo becuase it seems like a really nice place, but ive dealt with a few issues from them. i have seen multiple vehicles come from there in the short time that they have been open that wouldnt even run because of water and other " fluids" in the tanks. I have a picture of a fuel sample we took from a 2011 accord that had low tax canadian ag fuel. im at work so no image hosting but ill try and remember tonight.

SPANISH-RICE;323085 wrote:

ichibankilla;323093 wrote:
Pardon my ignorance ATM, but what exactly am I looking at here?

Yup.

SPANISH-RICE;323085 wrote:

KA-T_240;323088 wrote:
That seems a little shocking. I know people with flex fuel trucks that say they get a 4-5mpg difference between E85 and regular pump on the interstate, and thats a whole lot more ethanol.

I'd be VERY surprised if that were the case.

PSiedTSi;323084 wrote:
Exactly. I've seen people claim 4-5mpg better with non-oxy.

That seems a little shocking. I know people with flex fuel trucks that say they get a 4-5mpg difference between E85 and regular pump on the interstate, and thats a whole lot more ethanol.

Rexwagon;323083 wrote:
I dont think it matters, you will probably get better mpg with non ethanol gas.

Exactly. I've seen people claim 4-5mpg better with non-oxy.

KA-T_240;323080 wrote:
Nothing wrong with E10. In fact almost all gas sold in MN is E10, and they are possibly going to be bumping it up to a E20 requirement.

That's the difference between oxy and non-oxy gas - ethanol.

Rexwagon;323079 wrote:
o gay

Nothing wrong with E10. In fact almost all gas sold in MN is E10, and they are possibly going to be bumping it up to a E20 requirement.

KA-T_240;323078 wrote:
I think all aof the Holidays got a "new" gas. And they are all E10 also.

o gay

Rexwagon;323077 wrote:
the holiday up north here not started carrying some new additive gas. not sure what it is but it definatley is something new to fargo, still only 91.

I think all aof the Holidays got a "new" gas. And they are all E10 also.

gsrEK;323069 wrote:
you can only get 91 octane gas in this town. PERIOD As far as i know bradys in the only place that truly sells 91 octane gas non-oxygenated, not 91.5 because i usto receive the landing bill when we would receive gas and i can tell you its just 91 octane.

Weak, don't the pumps say 91.5?