<![CDATA[First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways]]>First off would like to give a big thanks to all who attended the first street legal race of the year.

Secondly I would like to explain/fill in a bit about the track, traction, etc. as I'm sure there will be some talk about it.

As stated by myself as well as plenty of the TM staff, there are plans for huge traction improvements at the strip. These are still the plans and there WILL be top fuel quality traction out there. Traction comes from the combo of good quality rubber (from racing slicks) and good compound. There needs to be a good layer of rubber as a base in which the compound can stick to and create traction. Being as the track saw little to no maintenance from the old owner, we had to scrap from the burnout box all the way to the 60 completely down to the cement substrate. By doing this we removed all of old crappy rubber but also had no rubber to build off of for traction and had to create a new base.

We did a considerable amount of prep ahead of time but being we had rain until midnight last night, 99% of that was washed away. We tried our best to get a decent base to build off of, we used 2-3 times the amount of compound required for normal prep (over 2 full barrels) as it was being absorbed into the cement/asphault/rubber as fast as we could spray it, but bottom line is that cars need to make passes and get heat into the track and lay rubber. Anyone who ran during or after the Quick 8 final and Sport bike final can atest to that, we did a full prep on top of what was already done just before that and there was a big improvement, even more so then what we had seen threw out the day, however, this is only about 1/4 of what I want the track to be, and we will be there by next weekend now that we have a good base to work with.

Again thank you to everyone who attended and all who waited it out well we got things sorted out.

If anyone has a questions, comments, or concerns please feel free to contact me either here, email, or at the track.

Charlie

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Top End;323501 wrote:
Just thought I'd throw out we had our first bracket weekend this weekend. Current record for wheelie off the line is 2 feet (Super stock car) and current axle count is 2!

Ahahaha

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311750https://fargostreet.com/post/311750Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:35:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:48:47 GMT]]>Just thought I'd throw out we had our first bracket weekend this weekend. Current record for wheelie off the line is 2 feet (Super stock car) and current axle count is 2!

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thurmanmerman;323327 wrote:
Jason did a good job of laying down a bunch of rubber with that dragster style burnout lol

John Force wanna be :icon_shaking: lol

if you guys just stopped making your cars fast, you wouldnt have to worry about spinning:icon_geek:

Kidding.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311665https://fargostreet.com/post/311665Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:29:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:35:01 GMT]]>

2.2=8;323361 wrote:
Just Wanted to say Thanks to Charlie and crew for the hard work getting the track raceable, I'm sure everything will be better in the future. And Thanks to Playtime Performance for the Q8 cash, I was going to leave after my first pass on the marbles but Dave Henry talked me out of it (good to see him again), the track did start to come back after some hard work by the crews and cars running down it. I was able to get some useful data and got within a half second of the cars best, won the Q8, and met some very nice people.
I didnt see any of the "drama" that happened. What went down that some speak of? Thanks, Warren Stramer............Dodge Daytona (actually a 84 Laser XE)

Was good to meet you also Warren. The engine bay on your car is beautiful and full of absolute perfection. Hope to see you out at the track again!

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311622https://fargostreet.com/post/311622Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:35:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:29:26 GMT]]>I would like to say that I am impressed with the attitude and courtesy everyone is offering. Saturday was NOT ideal for the track owners, the sponsors, or most importantly, the racers. Collectively, Tintmasters and Top End Dragways knows this, and will continue to learn and offer the most bang for the buck that we can to our racers and spectators. I know Charlie did everything he could to try and make it as fun as possible for everyone. By 2pm, he had completely used up his payment from us to host the event + $500.... IN TRACK PREP (not including staffs pay, and other 'business' type expenses). He was willing to eat each and every cent of his profit from the day, and go in the hole, to try and get it in proper condition. That says a lot about him as a business man, but also a lot about the race days to come. I boasted about traction and how things would be so much better this year.... I still stand by those words, and after seeing how Charlie reacted in a tough spot, I am fully confident that by the 2 day event, things will be amazing. I will eat crow if I am wrong, but so many things have gone wrong for Charlie, that jumping into this business took a learning experience (Saturday) to help level out the tracks needs.

Also keep in mind, that our track day was the absolute first race of the year at Top End Dragways. The continued rain has killed his opportunity to get a good layer of rubber down on the track. He stopped into the shop today to make sure that we knew that he was doing everything he possibly could to ensure the track runs much better than it has for years.

Thank you guys again for being polite (while voicing your concerns at the same time) to Charlie and the staff. It further drives them to make sure things in the future are so much better for all of us.

Jason Christopherson
Store Manager
Tintmasters
Fargo, ND

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311618https://fargostreet.com/post/311618Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:29:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:53:25 GMT]]>

2.2=8;323361 wrote:
I didnt see any of the "drama" that happened. What went down that some speak of?I saw most of it, this post sums it up nicely:
http://www.fargostreet.com/forums/showthread.php?20872-Bosnians.-LMAO.&p=323297#post323297

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311614https://fargostreet.com/post/311614Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:53:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:43:35 GMT]]>Just Wanted to say Thanks to Charlie and crew for the hard work getting the track raceable, I'm sure everything will be better in the future. And Thanks to Playtime Performance for the Q8 cash, I was going to leave after my first pass on the marbles but Dave Henry talked me out of it (good to see him again), the track did start to come back after some hard work by the crews and cars running down it. I was able to get some useful data and got within a half second of the cars best, won the Q8, and met some very nice people.
I didnt see any of the "drama" that happened. What went down that some speak of? Thanks, Warren Stramer............Dodge Daytona (actually a 84 Laser XE)

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90rs&01rs;323342 wrote:
Could have done with out the drama from a certain group.+1
I brought my family out and we were right next to what went down in the staging area. Idiots like that ruin it...

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311606https://fargostreet.com/post/311606Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:29:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:57:41 GMT]]>

Grr;323333 wrote:
better be at the next one zac, would be an easy win for you

don't know about that, but the old man knows those two days are mine so i WILL be there

got the harness and stuff all done so i should be good

pumped, always a good time at these events

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DrifterExtreme;323340 wrote:
i personally think it went well. it did suck to wait at times, but who am i to bitch about track operations. I had fun, and it was well worth the money so i will be out again.

I have to agree. It was fun and no body got hurt. Could have done with out the drama from a certain group. Thank's again Charlie and the Tint Master group

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311590https://fargostreet.com/post/311590Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:55:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:50:14 GMT]]>i personally think it went well. it did suck to wait at times, but who am i to bitch about track operations. I had fun, and it was well worth the money so i will be out again.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311588https://fargostreet.com/post/311588Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:50:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:54:00 GMT]]>better be at the next one zac, would be an easy win for you

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311581https://fargostreet.com/post/311581Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:54:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:46:05 GMT]]>

zbrown;323331 wrote:
anybody hit 9's?

The Daytona was the quickest, with 10.50s.

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GoldyHatchPSI;323328 wrote:
It took awhile to get going but now I understand why. Great work guys. The track was getting way better towards the end of the day. Better than last year. Was able to cut a 1.6 60ft and had my fastest pass in the final quick 8 race. The track can only get better.
Quick 8 cars
Me
Ek Hatch
Single turbo TA
Twin turbo Mustang
Turbo Daytona
Z06 Vette
Mustang Cobra
V8 S10

Daytona took first an I took second.

anybody hit 9's?

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311579https://fargostreet.com/post/311579Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:12:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Mon, 13 Jun 2011 00:09:02 GMT]]>Next time through the quick 8 will run smoother, as it was my first time It was all new to me. Now that I know what Ethan wants and expects I can do a better job I'll have the bracket and maybe some pics posted next time.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311578https://fargostreet.com/post/311578Mon, 13 Jun 2011 00:09:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:26:05 GMT]]>It took awhile to get going but now I understand why. Great work guys. The track was getting way better towards the end of the day. Better than last year. Was able to cut a 1.6 60ft and had my fastest pass in the final quick 8 race. The track can only get better.
Quick 8 cars
Me
Ek Hatch
Single turbo TA
Twin turbo Mustang
Turbo Daytona
Z06 Vette
Mustang Cobra
V8 S10

Daytona took first an I took second.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311576https://fargostreet.com/post/311576Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:26:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:55:24 GMT]]>Jason did a good job of laying down a bunch of rubber with that dragster style burnout lol

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311575https://fargostreet.com/post/311575Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:55:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:32:02 GMT]]>Burnout contest? Best way to lay down some rubber. 🙂

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311573https://fargostreet.com/post/311573Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:32:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:21:28 GMT]]>The street cars tear all the good rubber off the track anyway with hard compound skinny tires. Line that shit up out of the groove. Heh...

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311572https://fargostreet.com/post/311572Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:21:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:11:13 GMT]]>im not sure what you guys are worried about, there will be a couple bracket days between now and the next street legal, im more than positive they will be able to lay more rubber on the track than half the cars / trucks that were there, being on a bike and having spun all the way to the 330 mark i didnt come back and cry about it thats the way things go at a track, so i didnt understand why i overheard some conversations about people complaining. that is all

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311571https://fargostreet.com/post/311571Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:11:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:45:54 GMT]]>So who where all in the quick 8

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311568https://fargostreet.com/post/311568Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:45:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:23:21 GMT]]>Just want to say I stayed there till the end of the night and the track was getting way better. I got my fox to drop .2 in the 60ft after the Quick 8. It was getting better for sure and cant wait to see how good it will be when Charlie is done with it. Again want to thank all of the staff of Top End because all of them seem like bunch of great guys from talking to them after the event. Keep up the good work guys.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311567https://fargostreet.com/post/311567Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:23:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:49:33 GMT]]>

Top End;323316 wrote:
I also understand were you are coming from, however I do not feel there was that much more that could have been done. Other tracks do not have to scrap all of the rubber off of the track and start new, with the sever neglect that this track saw before me taking ownership of it this was not an option. Most tracks are only in this situation once, right after being built.

There were multiple NHRA officials/workers there for the event, all of whom completely agreed with my procedures, how the track was prepped, and all agreed that the track was very green, practically new, and the only way to get traction was to prep as best as possible and start sending cars down.

I glad you are trying your best and I hope that track continues to get better. I hope we can enjoy great racing there for years to come. Good Luck Charlie with the track I am sure it will take countless hrs and dollars to get it where you what it.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/311565https://fargostreet.com/post/311565Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:49:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to First Street Legal Day at Top End Dragways on Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:42:29 GMT]]>I also understand were you are coming from, however I do not feel there was that much more that could have been done. Other tracks do not have to scrap all of the rubber off of the track and start new, with the sever neglect that this track saw before me taking ownership of it this was not an option. Most tracks are only in this situation once, right after being built.

There were multiple NHRA officials/workers there for the event, all of whom completely agreed with my procedures, how the track was prepped, and all agreed that the track was very green, practically new, and the only way to get traction was to prep as best as possible and start sending cars down.

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