<![CDATA[Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input...]]>Hey guys, looking to replace my tired stock VF40 in the near future. When I went stage 2 I checked the turbo - I didn't have any radial play, but I had almost 1/8th of axial play in the shaft (via my calibrated feel-o-meter). I've heard this isn't too abnormal, but I'd really rather avoid having the thing fail on the car and contaminate all the oil/lines/cooler/etc. Car has just about 80k on it now and it's fairly common for them to be on the way out at this point.

I'm not really interested in another VF40, for reliability reasons, and why not upgrade right?

For reference, my current setup:
2005 Legacy GT Wagon, 5MT Tranny
Stock clutch, replaced when I bought it less than 5k ago
Stock intake, inlet, TB hose
Invidia UP
CNT Catted DP
Stock Cat-back

This my daily driver, so I want to stay reasonable. Here's the leading scenario right now:

BNR EVO III 16g Hybrid
AVO TMIC
Grimmspeed EBCS
Modded Stock Inejctors (~800+cc/min)
Deatschwerks DW65c Fuel Pump
Custom Tune on AP - 91 and E85 Maps - (Nuke or Shamar)

Expecting 280-310awhp on gas, 300-330 on E85.

Thoughts? Missing anything? TIA!

]]>https://fargostreet.com/topic/20668/planning-turbo-replacement-upgrade-looking-for-input...RSS for NodeWed, 27 May 2026 22:39:34 GMTTue, 08 Nov 2011 20:05:25 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:18:21 GMT]]>Update:

Figured out the name of the tuner I had heard - it was Shane@DB Performance. Went to RS anyway due to their specialty in tuning subies.

Since the last post I've done a couple things. Swapped the CNT downpipe for a Cobb - higher quality and the cat is in the midpipe section instead of under the TMIC. Added a PTP turbo blanket too.

Had some issues with the tune on the dyno, but finally got it figured out over email today. Really happy. Nice and smooth and making tons more power than my re-scaled gas tune. I just wish I had a dyno number to back it up. FWIW (not much) the Cobb AP dyno says 329 awhp & 347 ft-lbs. Seems a bit high to me but nevertheless E85 is the shit.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/315566https://fargostreet.com/post/315566Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:18:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:44:06 GMT]]>Dyno tune scheduled for the 16th! Ronnie @ RS has been a little tough to work with on communication, but I think he's the best one to do the tune.

Couple things to accomplish before then - boost leak test, new spark plugs & a turbo blanket. Also, I finally got the passenger side axle replaced (3 weeks ago), no more grease flung on the hot DP! Was easier than expected, I bet I could do the next one in 45 minutes.

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KA-T_240;326894 wrote:
I am not sure who this tune would be. Nuke or RS would be the places I would go. I know Bullwinkle on MNSubaru does tuning; however, he doesn't do a lot of it anymore, and I don't think he tunes E85.Great, thanks. Hopefully sooner than later. I called a local e85 distributor a couple weeks ago and confirmed they had switched to the summer blend, but I should go get a sample somewhere and test it.

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tl@altimas.net;326863 wrote:
Pulled logs on revision 9 the other day, hopefully we're close...

A few guys mentioned another tuner when I was out at Tintmasters - any idea who that might have been? It was someone other than Nuke or RS. I'm thinking it might be worth a roadtrip for a road/dyno tune for e85.

I am not sure who this tune would be. Nuke or RS would be the places I would go. I know Bullwinkle on MNSubaru does tuning; however, he doesn't do a lot of it anymore, and I don't think he tunes E85.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/315134https://fargostreet.com/post/315134Thu, 31 May 2012 12:48:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Thu, 31 May 2012 05:32:10 GMT]]>Tune is finally DONE! Revision 10 is the final. I'll re-tune for e85 sometime this summer, possibly at RS Motors.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/315133https://fargostreet.com/post/315133Thu, 31 May 2012 05:32:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Thu, 17 May 2012 13:26:32 GMT]]>Pulled logs on revision 9 the other day, hopefully we're close...

A few guys mentioned another tuner when I was out at Tintmasters - any idea who that might have been? It was someone other than Nuke or RS. I'm thinking it might be worth a roadtrip for a road/dyno tune for e85.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/315103https://fargostreet.com/post/315103Thu, 17 May 2012 13:26:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:22:06 GMT]]>Lookin good. Was nice to see you out the other day/night.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/314993https://fargostreet.com/post/314993Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:22:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:13:13 GMT]]>Been a while since I updated... Flashed the 7th tune revision and pulled some logs today, but found a boost leak at the TMIC>MAF hose connection. Got it all sealed up and will pull new logs tomorrow. I was hoping to be well into my e85 tune by now :icon_scratch:

Installed a stock grill and a ProClip mount since the last post.

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]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/314990https://fargostreet.com/post/314990Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:13:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 04:26:48 GMT]]>

tl@altimas.net;326120 wrote:
Yeah, so 63 x 1.3 = 81.9 unless I'm doing the math wrong...

Yeah, sorry, I was posting quick at work lol I was thinking just adding 30% more duty cycle for some reason...but obviously that's not how it works haha.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/314363https://fargostreet.com/post/314363Sat, 28 Jan 2012 04:26:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:54:35 GMT]]>Yeah, so 63 x 1.3 = 81.9 unless I'm doing the math wrong...

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/314361https://fargostreet.com/post/314361Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:54:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:17:48 GMT]]>I thought it was closer to 30% with E85?

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/314355https://fargostreet.com/post/314355Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:17:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:15:17 GMT]]>Oh, and now that I can run it to redline, I'm seeing 63% IDC on my base tune. That should put me around 82% when I tune for E85. Some people had suggested 750s or even 650s but I'm glad I went with 850s. Car runs and idles great.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/314352https://fargostreet.com/post/314352Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:15:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:05:06 GMT]]>Fuel pump went in last night, so I'm finally ready to pull some 3rd gear logs and get my tune revised.

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]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/314351https://fargostreet.com/post/314351Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:05:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:44:25 GMT]]>Took a look at my old turbo. .021 of shaft play, and it was indeed rubbing on the compressor cover!

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Full album: http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/turkeylord/LGT%20Stage%203%20Upgrade/Old%20VF40/

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/314097https://fargostreet.com/post/314097Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:44:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:38:21 GMT]]>DONE!

Started at about 6, installed turbo, injectors, gs ebcs, tmic & filtered oil line. Flashed the new tune and took her for a test drive around midnight. I think I'm overboosting a bit, but I'm seeing 21# on my little 16g! :cheers:

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/313990https://fargostreet.com/post/313990Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:38:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:11:27 GMT]]>Picked up the TMIC in the cities yesterday.

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Hope to get the fuel pump in one of these nights, then Friday/Saturday do the rest of the install.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/313883https://fargostreet.com/post/313883Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:11:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:05:11 GMT]]>Hell yeah... I'm gonna go into UPS withdrawls after all this.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/313833https://fargostreet.com/post/313833Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:05:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Thu, 08 Dec 2011 00:29:04 GMT]]>Not much better than getting new parts in the mail.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/313830https://fargostreet.com/post/313830Thu, 08 Dec 2011 00:29:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Wed, 07 Dec 2011 01:42:31 GMT]]>Got my base etune yesterday & turbo today. Everything is here except the intercooler, which I'll pick up Monday.

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More pics: http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/turkeylord/LGT%20Stage%203%20Upgrade/

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/313824https://fargostreet.com/post/313824Wed, 07 Dec 2011 01:42:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:12:35 GMT]]>Got a shipment notice and tracking number from BNR, my EVO3 16G is on it's way! Now I just hope it survives the madness that is UPS during the holidays...

Still holding onto hope that the DW65c's will be out sooner than later, I'd rather not have to modify the fuel pickup assembly if I don't have to...

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/313785https://fargostreet.com/post/313785Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:12:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:19:30 GMT]]>Found a deal on a TMIC, AVO it is... Pick it up on the 11th in the cities.

Injectors came today, and the guys at United said some of the diesel shops in town might be the place to go for a thorough cleaning - I'll have to check that out. Flow sheet looks good, all between 847 and 850cc.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/313779https://fargostreet.com/post/313779Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:19:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Fri, 25 Nov 2011 20:46:40 GMT]]>Ah, no problem. Yeah, if I was doing that I'd go FMIC anyway 🙂

Bought the Walbro today, thanks Tintmasters!

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/313773https://fargostreet.com/post/313773Fri, 25 Nov 2011 20:46:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Planning Turbo Replacement/Upgrade - Looking for input... on Fri, 25 Nov 2011 19:52:54 GMT]]>Sorry thought you were upgrading to a non flanged outlet compressor style turbo

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