CCr wrote:
[QUOTE=ticklemedaly]I know, I have always just found it funny that ford actually attempted to put a turbo in a mustang.....which in the first place should have a damn big ass motor in it. One day, theyll wake up and realize that they should bring in a bigger motor, and build it right to where itll compete against a vette.....

Daly, first off, there is not a camaro or any other car for that matter to compete with the mustang, they are kinda on their own, second, Ford designs mustangs with the aftermarket in mind so that you don't have to pay corvette price to make them faster than a vette, they now have in place a data sharing program for easier after market stuff, third, supercharging they thought was better due to no lag and of course the low end torque that comes with them, and finally, you don't need a bigger motor when you can build one that can handle 2000 hp, you just need to worry about the other parts that will break. My .02 cents as a mustang lover, now that I know what jdm stands for, I can pick on it if you like

I know, I do like mustangs, but just as a mech/tech, really hate working on fords in general. Mustangs really need superchargers, as my car does too. IMO, Mustangs shouldn't come with less than 8 cylinders, as with the Camaro, Vette (I know, it doesn't, but just to put in category)....to me, these are all great domestic cars, known for their history. And yes, you can make fun of my JDM too, if you feel the need to.

Daly, first off, there is not a camaro or any other car for that matter to compete with the mustang, they are kinda on their own, second, Ford designs mustangs with the aftermarket in mind so that you don't have to pay corvette price to make them faster than a vette, they now have in place a data sharing program for easier after market stuff, third, supercharging they thought was better due to no lag and of course the low end torque that comes with them, and finally, you don't need a bigger motor when you can build one that can handle 2000 hp, you just need to worry about the other parts that will break. My .02 cents as a mustang lover, now that I know what jdm stands for, I can pick on it if you like

imports own

AFSil80 wrote:
No, the V8 TT Lotus was the Lotus Espirit.

The Elise has always had a 1.8L. The NEW Elise has the Toyota GT-S 1.8L, just as the European versions had in the past.

The US Elise's in past years had a Honda B18C5 under the hood.

My bad, I knew that, just spaced it out of my mind. Elise~Espirit.....little different, but both start with an EEEEEEEE

adog wrote:
The Z06 shouldn't get raped. Really, depending on gearing and weight, a new base model Corvette might be closer than you'd expect.

I think that Elise would beat both, though.
I agree. The new Z06 is much much lighter than the 500 , cobra, and saleen, with similar or more hp/tq.

Flowcus wrote:
Ummm the new GT500 is going to rape a corvette... bad. Detuned version of the Ford GT engine... 5.0 supercharged 450hp 450tq only down fall is an open rear end. Or what about the Saleen mustangs... over priced and ugly but still really fast.

And I remember reading somewhere that over in europe they can buy an elise with a 400hp twin turbo V8.

The Z06 shouldn't get raped. Really, depending on gearing and weight, a new base model Corvette might be closer than you'd expect.

I think that Elise would beat both, though.

ticklemedaly wrote:
That is the original elises....the new ones are only 1.8 liter 4 cylinders....look it up....kinda reminds me of something like a praying mantis or the like, friken wicked!!!

No, the V8 TT Lotus was the Lotus Espirit.

The Elise has always had a 1.8L. The NEW Elise has the Toyota GT-S 1.8L, just as the European versions had in the past.

The US Elise's in past years had a Honda B18C5 under the hood.

out there wrote:
i know that, but it's funny to say that it was made in the usa
More like assembled.

pin wrote:
A LOT of imports are manufactured in the U.S. Your DSM is still an import because of where it was designed.

i know that, but it's funny to say that it was made in the usa

Flowcus wrote:
Ummm the new GT500 is going to rape a corvette... bad. Detuned version of the Ford GT engine... 5.0 supercharged 450hp 450tq only down fall is an open rear end. Or what about the Saleen mustangs... over priced and ugly but still really fast.

And I remember reading somewhere that over in europe they can buy an elise with a 400hp twin turbo V8.

That is the original elises....the new ones are only 1.8 liter 4 cylinders....look it up....kinda reminds me of something like a praying mantis or the like, friken wicked!!!

Pony_Racer wrote:
Yeah even if Ford threw a little ass turbo on the 5.0's from the factory they would of been much more popular imo. But with all the smog issues and what not only the 4 cylie got the turbo. The lotus is def a bad ass car for having so little HP :eek:

Its all about the power to weight ratio baby!!!

mym6 wrote:
They always feel great from a stop light but really just make a lot of noise high in the RPM range

wow you just described my grand prix to the T lol

out there wrote:
what about the people that say "imports suck" about dsms? made in normal, illinois, baby

A LOT of imports are manufactured in the U.S. Your DSM is still an import because of where it was designed.

Flowcus wrote:
Then why are there a shit ton of turbo 4-cyl fords in europe? Ford doesnt see a market for turbo 4-cyl cars in the states hence the reason they never brought the Focus RS here which is a real shame.

You're right and I think it's because in general Americans don't like 4 cyl cars and revving them to get power. They want power low in the RPM range. Look at just about any American car, particuarly GM ones. Until very recently they were always strong on the bottom end but awful up high. They always feel great from a stop light but really just make a lot of noise high in the RPM range

ticklemedaly wrote:
I know, I have always just found it funny that ford actually attempted to put a turbo in a mustang.....which in the first place should have a damn big ass motor in it. One day, theyll wake up and realize that they should bring in a bigger motor, and build it right to where itll compete against a vette.....but in the mean time, one of my favorite cars right now is the Lotus Elise.....finally made it over here and now they are looking to supercharge it bringing it to 248 horses.....amazing what that much power will do to a car weight in at only 1400 lbs....i believe or 1700, can't remember.

Ummm the new GT500 is going to rape a corvette... bad. Detuned version of the Ford GT engine... 5.0 supercharged 450hp 450tq only down fall is an open rear end. Or what about the Saleen mustangs... over priced and ugly but still really fast.

And I remember reading somewhere that over in europe they can buy an elise with a 400hp twin turbo V8.

wannabe wrote:
lol ford couldn't make a turbo 4 cyl if there life depended on it. the F2t is mazdas gift to ford. the styling of 1 and 2 g probes was the japaneses saying "HAHAHA you gets drive shitty car.

Then why are there a shit ton of turbo 4-cyl fords in europe? Ford doesnt see a market for turbo 4-cyl cars in the states hence the reason they never brought the Focus RS here which is a real shame.

ticklemedaly wrote:
I know, I have always just found it funny that ford actually attempted to put a turbo in a mustang.....which in the first place should have a damn big ass motor in it. One day, theyll wake up and realize that they should bring in a bigger motor, and build it right to where itll compete against a vette.....but in the mean time, one of my favorite cars right now is the Lotus Elise.....finally made it over here and now they are looking to supercharge it bringing it to 248 horses.....amazing what that much power will do to a car weight in at only 1400 lbs....i believe or 1700, can't remember.

Yeah even if Ford threw a little ass turbo on the 5.0's from the factory they would of been much more popular imo. But with all the smog issues and what not only the 4 cylie got the turbo. The lotus is def a bad ass car for having so little HP :eek:

stephen bradley wrote:
I would love to own a Ford.........gt40

You're to pussy to drive it

ichibankilla wrote:
let me guess oakley razorblades and matching mullets.

Talking bought people hatin', get this, I'm just sittin' there bs'n with one of my buddies when this 16-17 yr old punk in a bone stock powder blue 02-03 malibu pulls up to me and says to my face "Your cars a piece of shit", It's a good thing I have self control, but at times it seems like a curse, because I was seriously pissed. My avatar pretty sums up how pissed I was, That kids had some huge balls to say that.

YOUR car is a piece of shit huh to him???....I suppose he doesn't realize all the problems Malibus have.......Hate them, but would love to keep repairing them.

Pony_Racer wrote:
The engine or the car lol? Two different things there, the SVO mustang was a quick litte bugger that ran mid to low 15's stock. The reason they stopped producing them was Ford was charging $4,000 over their top mustang model (GT's) base price, which eventually led to their demise. Not because they were junk or kept breaking.

I know, I have always just found it funny that ford actually attempted to put a turbo in a mustang.....which in the first place should have a damn big ass motor in it. One day, theyll wake up and realize that they should bring in a bigger motor, and build it right to where itll compete against a vette.....but in the mean time, one of my favorite cars right now is the Lotus Elise.....finally made it over here and now they are looking to supercharge it bringing it to 248 horses.....amazing what that much power will do to a car weight in at only 1400 lbs....i believe or 1700, can't remember.