out there wrote:
spoken like a true old man...

And you just bought yourself a spankin'.

weshole wrote:
You know what? They are all exciting to watch. And all of the series' have some very talented drivers that stand out when compared to the others. They also seem to be the ones with a great team and excellent backing. I think Jeff Gordon has as much raw racing talent as Michael Schumacher. Heck, even Robby Gordon has some real talent Look how many baja races hes won. These are just a few names that imedialtely come to mind. I know there are ALOT of other very talented drivers out there some of which none of us have probably heard of. As far as physical talent and stamina goes. Put anyone of them on a bike for a moto gp or any other bike race with the likes of Valentino Rossi (spelling) or Nicky Hayden and see if they endure. What I'm getting at is they are all equally talented in there own ways and I wouldn't put one series in front of the other. It's all in personal preference. I have mutual admiration and respect for all of them.

I still don't like NASCAR

torbs wrote:
0% moisture is used in nascar too because otherwise as soon as the tire temp. reads 212 degrees the pressure would sky rocket...so that one basically applies to all "higher" types of racing...and as i said, semi-auto push button = cheating...and as i said before, the only thing f1 drivers got on nascar drivers is the ability to withstand higher g-force...where as nascar drivers dont deal with g-force as much (wait, what about bristol??? ) and have the ability to not need driving aids to actually keep a car under control.

Are you serious??
The "only" thing a f1 driver has on a nascar driver is withstanding g-force??
I'd venture to say that the only thing that they have that is close to being even is some of the g-forces, otherwise the vehicles are completely different. An the drivers are night and day. I realize that all these drivers are accomplihed road racers in classes that we've never heard of before, but drivign around a big track for a few years straight, might've dumbed them up a bit. Threre is no Factual way that you can say a nascar driver is better than a f1.

Back to that dirt track, i agree, that is fun, and come-on, they're basicaly drifting the whole track and passing everyone all the time!!!! And the accidents, they have to make sure that their eyes are closed if they flip, otherwise their eyes may get popped out of socket, come-on that's awesome!!!

stephen bradley wrote:
Did you know that The tyres of a F1 car have to be filled with air with 0% moisture or the moisture will have an impact on the expanded volume at operating temperature.The optimum tyre temperature of an F1 car is about 90`C

Automatic transmissions are prohibited in the technical regulations,and most of the drivers use semi-automatic. He simply presses a button on the side of his steering wheel. This allows the driver to change gear in one or two hundredths of a second!

0% moisture is used in nascar too because otherwise as soon as the tire temp. reads 212 degrees the pressure would sky rocket...so that one basically applies to all "higher" types of racing...and as i said, semi-auto push button = cheating...and as i said before, the only thing f1 drivers got on nascar drivers is the ability to withstand higher g-force...where as nascar drivers dont deal with g-force as much (wait, what about bristol??? ) and have the ability to not need driving aids to actually keep a car under control.

stephen bradley wrote:
A couple fun facts

Did you know when a Formula 1 driver lifts his foot off the foot pedal at 300kph (185mph), his racecar will slow at over 1G just due to the aerodynamic drag - a rate equivalent to the maximum braking of a typical road car. By the time he has put his foot on the brake pedal, and the brakes have heated up to their working temperature, the car will have slowed by 200kph and the brakes will add around 4G to the effort to slow the car, instantaneously absorbing over 2500hp.Just over 2 seconds later, he will be travelling at 100kph (60mph), and ready to ease off the brake pedal as he approaches the apex to the second gear corner ahead. A current Formula One car is capable of a transverse acceleration of up to 4G, whereas a road car does not exceed 1G.

Did you know that The tyres of a F1 car have to be filled with air with 0% moisture or the moisture will have an impact on the expanded volume at operating temperature.The optimum tyre temperature of an F1 car is about 90`C

Automatic transmissions are prohibited in the technical regulations,and most of the drivers use semi-automatic. He simply presses a button on the side of his steering wheel. This allows the driver to change gear in one or two hundredths of a second!

That's why F1>nascar

Did you know when a Formula 1 driver lifts his foot off the foot pedal at 300kph (185mph), his racecar will slow at over 1G just due to the aerodynamic drag - a rate equivalent to the maximum braking of a typical road car. By the time he has put his foot on the brake pedal, and the brakes have heated up to their working temperature, the car will have slowed by 200kph and the brakes will add around 4G to the effort to slow the car, instantaneously absorbing over 2500hp.Just over 2 seconds later, he will be travelling at 100kph (60mph), and ready to ease off the brake pedal as he approaches the apex to the second gear corner ahead. A current Formula One car is capable of a transverse acceleration of up to 4G, whereas a road car does not exceed 1G.

Did you know that The tyres of a F1 car have to be filled with air with 0% moisture or the moisture will have an impact on the expanded volume at operating temperature.The optimum tyre temperature of an F1 car is about 90`C

Automatic transmissions are prohibited in the technical regulations,and most of the drivers use semi-automatic. He simply presses a button on the side of his steering wheel. This allows the driver to change gear in one or two hundredths of a second!

McAdam

I don't remember for sure...but for my cousin to get on with the World Of Outlaws it was gonna cost him $100k for a Contract.

tjamz wrote:
maybe if they had more driver skill they could use the same tires the whole race :p:eek::p:eek::p

wow...thats just like saying "your wrx can get the same distance in 5 gallons as my honda insite can...thats only if you have enough driver skill though"

torbs wrote:
f1 tires actually last the whole race, nascar's HAVE to change tires or they'll blow em all the time...unless goodyear comes up with some pimp shit tires for them...

maybe if they had more driver skill they could use the same tires the whole race :p:eek::p:eek::p

tjamz wrote:
yes, but nascar drivers get to change tires, F1 does not (ok...they can change ONE tire per race...not one set, one tire.) Trust me traction control doesn't prevent spinouts in F1, they get loose plenty often as well.

f1 tires actually last the whole race, nascar's HAVE to change tires or they'll blow em all the time...unless goodyear comes up with some pimp shit tires for them...