They are the last of the affordable small roadster cars, you just can't help but like 'em.

Sweet-WRX-Lovin wrote:
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That's my boy. You are my hero. And a Snufire is a chicks car. Like I stated earlier. I'm the only one in my town under 50 that even owns one. And most of them are older guys that miss their MG's and Sprites.

weshole wrote:
You forgot to mention a rather excellent CHASSIS!

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parts are inexpensive just like honda's and just as plentifull... with just as many tuners cuase it's just a great plateform to start with

2wheeler wrote:
No, cause he's dumb.

Seriously, I think both the driver and car would have to be phenomenal to take advantage of it. So, not take anything away from Harwood, my answer is no.

I highly doubt anybody I personally know (including myself) could take advantage of it.

Seriously, I think both the driver and car would have to be phenomenal to take advantage of it. So, not take anything away from Harwood, my answer is no.

2wheeler wrote:
I agree with what you said above, in theory. Ya know, perfect world type stuff. But in real world racing, if your car can't hold the power, IMO, you can "cheat" the theory and slide.

I see your point. But now you tell me. Does this apply to Harwood and his FWD Civic?

weshole wrote:
If I pushed my car to the point of sliding in a corner, (pushing it beyond the edge and not showboating) I would spin around at least once. Maybe I could pull out of it but it shure as hell wouldn't be fast. Setting yourself up properly to execute the corner, hitting the apex just right, and exiting the corner without loosing grip or momentum is the fastest way around a track.

If sliding was the fastest way around, then Michael Schumacher,Jeff gordon, And Miguel Duhamel would be the drift kings. That's my belief.
Ah, ah, ah....now you're contradicting yourself. Miguel Duhamel DOES slide corners, as do all exceptional superbike riders. Watch a MotoGP or World Superbike race, they set themselves up for corners by "drifting" the rear end of the bike.......CAUSE ITS FASTER....the lap times have proven it. Schumacher and Gordon don't need to drift cause they have such large contact patches. If you can go into a corner at 500MPH, and have the suspension and tires to hold it, why slide? Bikes have maybe 2-5 square inches to put down 200-240HP, so sliding is faster. This is similar to what we see at local autocross events....tires and tracks that cant hold the cars' power. Shane won the Minot autocross in a stock(other than intake/cat back) S2000. He was one of the only guys that could slide the car effectively. He beat STis, Civics, other RWDs and other S2000s.

I agree with what you said above, in theory. Ya know, perfect world type stuff. But in real world racing, if your car can't hold the power, IMO, you can "cheat" the theory and slide.

2wheeler wrote:
That may be true, but done properly, it is the fastest way around a track.

If I pushed my car to the point of sliding in a corner, (pushing it beyond the edge and not showboating) I would spin around at least once. Maybe I could pull out of it but it shure as hell wouldn't be fast. Setting yourself up properly to execute the corner, hitting the apex just right, and exiting the corner without loosing grip or momentum is the fastest way around a track.

If sliding was the fastest way around, then Michael Schumacher,Jeff gordon, And Miguel Duhamel would be the drift kings. That's my belief.

my .02

2wheeler wrote:
That may be true, but done properly, it is the fastest way around a track.

Exactly. my car slides out because i dont slow down before a corner, its not like i slide it sideways like a drift car, but it goes out a tiny bit. If you dont slow doen through a corner and thats why you slide out thats why its faster.

weshole wrote:
[QUOTE=harwood39]with the right suspension and chassis mods you can get ther rear end out easily like a rear wheel, and it hold the road awsomely.

If your sliding, your wasting momentum.[/QUOTE]
That may be true, but done properly, it is the fastest way around a track.

LT1 wrote:
it was fun driftin in ur car Wes, hahaha....Kirk almost peed his pants.

Ya, I forgot you test drove it. Tell Harwood was up.

tjamz wrote:
I dunno, people buy Mini Cooper S's for that reason wes.

God DAMNIT! YOUR RIGHT! I retract that statement. Partially.

weshole wrote:
Noone and I mean NOONE buys a Civic or any other fwd for that matter (modded or not) because of their handling prowess.

I dunno, people buy Mini Cooper S's for that reason wes.