97jeep wrote:
No, its not that i need something besides a pretuned ecu. I was planning on putting one in for fine tuning down the road, and also to be avble to monitor other stuff. It just this is going to be that fastest way to aid getting my car to run right. adding ton off aditional gauges/displays, and allows me to screw around with settings ect...

and if it helps get it running right it well allow me to further diagnosis the problems, such as miss labled parts ect. based on how far i need to change things.

ive got 2 new ideas to look after.

and i also have 2 ecu with tunes and it doesn matter which one i have in. ive gone as far as to re wire my maf back to the stock and it doesnt even effect how it runs. the car has been running for over 3weeks with the turbo setup. i just don't want to drive it much in its current condition. I've put some miles on it and fixed some random problems. The idle has improved since i started but not where i want it to be. and i somewhere lost 8lbs of vacuum at idle and there is no vacuum leaks, compared to when i was NA.

and my problems are more then 1 in 1000. he has never scene or heard anything like this. ive tried everything people have suggested on KA-T, and the people from AMS. I am about ready to pull it all completely apart

well good luck man i hope you figure this shiz out

and if it helps get it running right it well allow me to further diagnosis the problems, such as miss labled parts ect. based on how far i need to change things.

ive got 2 new ideas to look after.

and i also have 2 ecu with tunes and it doesn matter which one i have in. ive gone as far as to re wire my maf back to the stock and it doesnt even effect how it runs. the car has been running for over 3weeks with the turbo setup. i just don't want to drive it much in its current condition. I've put some miles on it and fixed some random problems. The idle has improved since i started but not where i want it to be. and i somewhere lost 8lbs of vacuum at idle and there is no vacuum leaks, compared to when i was NA.

and my problems are more then 1 in 1000. he has never scene or heard anything like this. ive tried everything people have suggested on KA-T, and the people from AMS. I am about ready to pull it all completely apart

wannabe wrote:
finally figured out that u need something besides a pretuned ECU?

His problems are one in a thousand or more. Please do your research before you criticize his choice in engine management. However, I believe a lot of people do use both.