<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[This one tops them all......]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><strong>Lawyer argues sex with dead deer not crime</strong></p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>By Maria Lockwood, Forum Communications Co.<br />
Published Thursday, November 16, 2006</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">Prosecution of a Douglas County case involving alleged sexual contact with a dead deer may hinge on the legal definition of the word “animal.”</p>
<p dir="auto">Bryan James Hathaway, 20, of Superior faces a misdemeanor charge of sexual gratification with an animal. He is accused of having sex with a dead deer he saw beside Stinson Avenue on Oct. 11.</p>
<p dir="auto">A motion filed last week by his attorney, public defender Fredric Anderson, argued that because the deer was dead, it was not considered an animal and the charge should be dismissed.</p>
<p dir="auto">“The statute does not prohibit one from having sex with a carcass,” Anderson wrote.</p>
<p dir="auto">Judge Michael Lucci heard the motion Tuesday.</p>
<p dir="auto">“I’m a little surprised this issue hasn’t been tackled before in another case,” Lucci said.</p>
<p dir="auto">The Webster’s dictionary defines “animal” as “any of a kingdom of living beings,” Anderson said.</p>
<p dir="auto">If you include carcasses in that definition, he said, “you really go down a slippery slope with absurd results.”</p>
<p dir="auto">Anderson argued: When does a turkey cease to be an animal? When it is dead?</p>
<p dir="auto">When it is wrapped in plastic packaging in the freezer? When it is served, fully cooked?</p>
<p dir="auto">A judge should decide what the Legislature intended “animal” to mean in the statute, he said. “And the only clear point to draw the line in that definition, I believe, is the point of death.”</p>
<p dir="auto">Assistant District Attorney James Boughner said the court can use a dictionary to determine the meaning of the word, but it doesn’t have to.</p>
<p dir="auto">“The common and ordinary meaning of a word can be found in how people actually use the word,” Boughner wrote in his response to the motion.</p>
<p dir="auto">When a person’s pet dog dies, he told Lucci, the person still refers to the dog as his or her dog, not a carcass.</p>
<p dir="auto">“It stays a dog for some time,” Boughner said.</p>
<p dir="auto">He referred to the criminal complaint, in which Hathaway told police he saw the dead deer in the ditch and moved it into the woods. Hathaway called it a dead deer, Boughner said, not a carcass.</p>
<p dir="auto">“It did not lose its essence as a deer, an animal, when it died,” he said.</p>
<p dir="auto">Anderson argued that the statute, which falls under the heading “crimes against sexual morality,” was meant to protect animals. That would be unnecessary in the case of a dead animal.</p>
<p dir="auto">“If you look at the other crimes that are in this subsection, they all protect against something other than simply things we don’t like or things we find disgusting,” he said.</p>
<p dir="auto">Other crimes in that subsection include incest, bigamy, public fornication and lewd and lascivious behavior.</p>
<p dir="auto">Boughner said the focus of the statute was on punishing the human behavior, not protecting animals.</p>
<p dir="auto">“It does not seem to draw a line between the living and the dead,” he said.</p>
<p dir="auto">Interpreting the statute to exclude dead animals would also exclude freshly killed animals, Boughner said. That, he said, could lead to people who commit such acts with animals to kill them.</p>
<p dir="auto">Lucci said he would render a decision by Hathaway’s next court appearance on Dec. 1.</p>
<p dir="auto">The misdemeanor charge carries a maximum penalty of nine months in jail and a fine of up to $10,000. If convicted, Hathaway could serve a prison term of up to two years because of a previous conviction. In April 2005, Hathaway pleaded no contest to one felony charge of mistreatment of an animal for the shooting death of Bambrick, a 26-year-old horse, to have sex with the animal</p>
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<p dir="auto">darkelvis wrote:<br />
Maybe everyone else took the moral high ground here and didn't mention anything, but am I the only one that noticed that the attorney's name is "Boughner" everyone say that name out loud once and tell me it isn't funny as it pertains to the case.<br />
Very Mature Jon!</p>
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]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/127299</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/127299</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Joel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 00:54:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:40:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">^AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA</p>
<p dir="auto">LOL to that one</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/127261</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/127261</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[KA-T_240]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:40:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:34:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Maybe everyone else took the moral high ground here and didn't mention anything, but am I the only one that noticed that the attorney's name is "Boughner" everyone say that name out loud once and tell me it isn't funny as it pertains to the case.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Sweet-WRX-Lovin wrote:<br />
I just can't figured out why someone would look at a dead deer lying there and think "man I need to bust a nut in that!" and then DO IT.<br />
They suffer from Sweet-Animal Carcass-Lovin</p>
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]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/127047</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/127047</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[StangerBanger96]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:21:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:58:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I just can't figured out why someone would look at a dead deer lying there and think "man I need to bust a nut in that!" and then DO IT.</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/127039</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/127039</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sweet-WRX-Lovin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:58:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:42:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">How do you know whether or not the animal is a consenting animal? Whether or not it's alive or dead.</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/127033</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/127033</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[StangerBanger96]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:42:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:11:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">i could care less if he wants to fuck dead animals on his personal time... its fucking sick but if thats what he wants to do, whateva i guess...</p>
<p dir="auto">not sure why they would put him in jail for it</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/127021</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/127021</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:11:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:08:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">the law in Wisconsin states it is illegal to have sex with a LIVE animal (from what i've been able to gather and the news reports that have come down).  However sick this act is, it may not be illegal, other than from the indecent exposure laws.  I'm not saying I'm condoning it, just that legally he probably didn't do anything illegal just by fucking a dead animal.</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/127019</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/127019</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[[[global:guest]]]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:08:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:50:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">God this thread is getting me HOT!!!</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/127008</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/127008</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[weshole]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:50:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:41:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I think we should be able to fuck not just whoever, but whatever we want to (with consent)</p>
<p dir="auto">edit: thought about it, Fuck consent</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/127005</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/127005</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:41:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:51:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">It's even sicker that he already has a rap sheet for fucking animals...</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/126947</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/126947</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[StangerBanger96]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:51:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:32:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I'm wondering what's goin through the attorney for the defendant's head....He's laughing all the way to the bank on this one or else he is just as sick as the deerbanger</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/126943</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/126943</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bookem]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:32:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:25:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Well, someone humpin an animal isn't a surprise anymore but the fact that we expect the laws on animal bestiality to be challenged is terrible...</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/126939</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/126939</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[PSiedTSi]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:25:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:24:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">just about everything in that post scares me</p>
]]></description><link>https://fargostreet.com/post/126937</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://fargostreet.com/post/126937</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[24valvenotak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:24:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to This one tops them all...... on Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:20:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The part where someone said they were surprised it hadn't been tackled in another case scares me about todays society...</p>
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