<![CDATA[Push-button start help]]>I just called out to ford and they told me that their parts computers only go back to 97 so they cant create a key from the VIN number. So i was looking online for solutions and one hit me....PUSH BUTTON IGNITION! I was just wondering if anyone has any hints or help before I start this. I am confident I can figure it out myself, but any help would be wonderful. I think I need 2 switches if I am going to bypass the key... An accesory switch, and a push button for the starter.
I dont have a manual so I can't fin any wiring diagrams, but I think I can figure it out.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/topic/848/push-button-start-helpRSS for NodeThu, 28 May 2026 13:23:01 GMTFri, 26 Nov 2004 16:08:11 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Tue, 30 Nov 2004 04:54:07 GMT]]>You get those relays that I sold you installed yet? Let me know if you have any problems.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14880https://fargostreet.com/post/14880Tue, 30 Nov 2004 04:54:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:15:15 GMT]]>I'm not sure how a remote starter would make a better relay pack than 3 relays would, but then again I haven't touched a DEI remote starter in 6-7 years...who knows. Like I said, i have a bunch of relays and I could even prewire each of them for ya so all you'd need to do is plug them in to your ignition wiring and to a single toggle switch to control all of them.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14736https://fargostreet.com/post/14736Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:15:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:28:51 GMT]]>it would be really easy if anyone had a old DEI remote starter laying around that would work great for a relay pack.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14711https://fargostreet.com/post/14711Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:28:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:41:35 GMT]]>lol..couldn't remember for the life of me. Thanks for clarifying fitzy.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14698https://fargostreet.com/post/14698Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:41:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:34:13 GMT]]>87a is the center pin, just in case haha

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14695https://fargostreet.com/post/14695Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:34:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:31:11 GMT]]>Single Pull Double Throw relays can be purchased at radioshack or I'd imagine just about any parts store or stereo shop. Basically what happens is one side of the relay (Terminal #85 in my example) gets a continuous 12 Volts of power and the other side (Terminal 86)gets a switched Negative 12 Volts of power. When the above happens it closes the contact between terminal 30 (12 Volts Constant) and terminal 87 (Output to ignition circuit) (it might be terminal 87A...I forget which one is the center pin and which is the top pin off the top of my head...either way the top tab/pin is the one you need to connect to) and powers up the ignition circuit.

Like I said, i have a ton of these relays laying around my garage, so if you need a few I can let you have them for my cost.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14694https://fargostreet.com/post/14694Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:31:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:22:44 GMT]]>yeah, definately worth the money to spend on relays for that added safety. The toggle switch will burn out of time.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14692https://fargostreet.com/post/14692Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:22:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:43:22 GMT]]>joel call me mr safety, but if you don't use a switch that can handle the power, you run the risk of your wires burning up

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14686https://fargostreet.com/post/14686Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:43:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:59:27 GMT]]>Mine works. I don't know if it will wear out the switch or what, but i have used it a couple of times already. I can meet you somehwhere sometime maybe and we could take a look at it. I have no idea what your talking about or what the diagram is for.

Plus I cant read any of that!

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14679https://fargostreet.com/post/14679Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:59:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:18:51 GMT]]>getting closer their Joel, but I'd use a Single Pull Double Throw relay for EACH ignition wire seperately rather than a toggle switch as most toggle switches aren't capable of withstanding the current that your ignition will be pulling. Here is a diagram on how to wire them (my pin numbers may be off, but the layout is right)

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14677https://fargostreet.com/post/14677Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:18:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:27:11 GMT]]>Yes I did solder them mr safety. I didn't wanna take the time to run to a hardware store. And thats 15 cents more i can spend on many other things, everypenny counts in junkyard wars! I will eventually crimp those connections when I get a chance to go to a hardware store. All I have left to do is mount the wires, and I'm ready for HIN!wait...

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14671https://fargostreet.com/post/14671Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:27:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:16:52 GMT]]>Joel, did you atleast soldier those wires? There are little slide on crimp connectors that are available for those switches, I know that the rest of the probe is ghetto, but the last thing you want is a fire underneath the dash.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14670https://fargostreet.com/post/14670Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:16:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:51:16 GMT]]>SO... is this what you meant tjamz???
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Look mah, No keys!
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Thanks Raider, Tjamz, Wes, Jim. If it werent for your help, the probe would be doing what it should be, staying off the road.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14669https://fargostreet.com/post/14669Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:51:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:50:55 GMT]]>ok, I have all day if you want to do it today. I think I am going to try to take out the tumbler and start it so then I could maybe drive it to your place and you could help me out.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14649https://fargostreet.com/post/14649Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:50:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 05:19:03 GMT]]>basically that is what I'm saying....except that you're gonna want a couple of relays being triggered off that toggle switch to turn on the ignition/ignition2/accessory wires. I have a couple relays laying around my garage somewhere that I'll sell ya for a couple of bucks each (whatever they cost me I'll sell them to you for)...and I'll attempt to explain how to wire them off that toggle switch for ya.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14591https://fargostreet.com/post/14591Sun, 28 Nov 2004 05:19:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:24:42 GMT]]>

tjamz wrote:
Might just be easier to go to a junkyard and buy a new ignition cylinder that has a key already w/ it.

If not, it will be interesting doing the wiring. You are right, you will need a momentary pushbutton switch to attach to the starter wire(s) probably gonna be a black/yellow wire. As for the other switch you will need a toggle switch to be wired to at least 3 different relays.

Relay #1 will go to Ignition #1 (black/white wire) when activated
Relay #2 will go to Ignition #2 (black/red wire) when activated
Relay #3 will go to Accessory (blue wire) when activated

As for unlocking the steering, you might be able to just remove the stock ignition cylinder. Get a manual cuz I'm not sure how ford goes about removing them for this vehicle.

The downside to this is that anyone can steal your vehicle at any time if they can figure out what each switch does.

So this is what your saying?
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]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14567https://fargostreet.com/post/14567Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:24:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:13:38 GMT]]>Thanks wes, raider has already given me that very helpful information up there.I dont think anyone gets it. I am not having another key made, I AM MAKING A PUSH BUTTON START. I already got the ignition cylinder off the steering column. What I need is labels to my diagram to figure out how to wire my push button start.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14566https://fargostreet.com/post/14566Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:13:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:04:23 GMT]]>In the pic you had of the top of the steering lock youll notice to bolts with no head on them, those are breakaway bolts. just notch them with a cutoff wheel or a dremel tool and take a screwdriver to them and remove them. Or use a chisel if room allows. Once you get the ignition cylinder/switch assy out you can unscrew the two or three phillips screws holding the lock and tumbler to the switch itself. Wella, all you need is a screwdriver to start the beatch. Take the lock cylinder to a locksmith at your liesure and have him make you a key. Go to the parts store and get two bolts with the same pitch as the old bolts and bolt er back in. Hope this helps a little.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14564https://fargostreet.com/post/14564Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:04:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:43:39 GMT]]>legacy image
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I got the ignition out and thats the pinout I made for it. Does anoyone know what colors mean what? I know blue is accessory. but other than that, i have NO clue.

THe gay little lines through them are the tracer colors.

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14563https://fargostreet.com/post/14563Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:43:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:44:06 GMT]]>is that a pic from the top? if it is then those are the 2 that u have to remove...I sent you a pm

]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14551https://fargostreet.com/post/14551Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:44:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:41:32 GMT]]>is this what you were talking about?
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]]>https://fargostreet.com/post/14550https://fargostreet.com/post/14550Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:41:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Push-button start help on Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:38:15 GMT]]>here ill go get a quick pic of theose bolts i think your talking about... tell me if i am right

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