WTB: Any 2-4 year computer equipment you have

[Guest]

mym6 wrote:
You're a bit vague on your needs here when you say SQL back-office implementation. Are you looking for full file/print services? Going to be running a specific app that requires MSSQL? How many client computers? Why do you need a minimum of 5 server computers to run a web site? What would the Cisco routers be used for? Reading over the info for a 3000 series cisco router it seems you are looking for a VPN solution. I don't know the cost of one of these but if it's like their switches you could build 5 Linux machines to handle VPN traffic for the cost of one Cisco router. If you have the right needs, you could save a bundle of money going with a Linux solution.

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Answer your in relateive sequence here

1. I need the routers for a VPN your correct - he owns a couple businesses and wants to manage them from his home - so I will set that up. He does not want to rely off Linux for the VPN solution as he will be using Navision, an MBS product which has tremendous VPN capabilities built in, but I will need a router with AUI/Console ports to setup the protocols.
2. Multiple businesses = multiple Apache servers, I could collate them, but with each business he has different personell that will update them with current information such as promotions/inventory that will be linked to there back office.
3. File/Print servers is the main reason why I'm looking for a couple barebone computers to just put in Server 2000/2003 and implement active directory
4. As stated earlier, Navision REQUIRES MS SQL -

If I could I'd put everything on Linux, but the software already invested is not cheap.

I don't need notebooks guys, I need ATX computer parts. Pref of decent performance as I will be installing Windows Server 2000/2003, the less powerful I will run apache on. I might MIGHT be interested in even AT form factor - give me a PM with what you got.

Overall, I don't think price is the main issue, as I'm GUESSING that he paid well over $100k+ for Navision (even if it's barebone without any EDI, Payroll, HR modules)

Still waiting on the CISCO switch......

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[aliengotpsi]

Why would you buy used computer equipment, when brand new stuff is so cheap?

[Guest]

2fas4yall wrote:
Why would you buy used computer equipment, when brand new stuff is so cheap?

cuz it may be cheaper - especially the router equipment. I can build a computer box for under $500, which I may have to do, but I'm viewing my options right now.

[Guest]

UPDATE any used KVM switches out there too? Just out of curiousity.

[STiSchucky]

why dont you just make a trip to them 2nd rate computer stores like PC hurtz or computer renasance(nfi how to spell that)...they'll be glad to hook u up with something cheap from their junkyard. ive looked in the back rooms and they got stuff stockpiled so you probably can't go wrong there...plus they cut u pretty good deals

[amicheze]

STiSchucky wrote:
why dont you just make a trip to them 2nd rate computer stores like PC hurtz or computer renasance(nfi how to spell that)...they'll be glad to hook u up with something cheap from their junkyard. ive looked in the back rooms and they got stuff stockpiled so you probably can't go wrong there...plus they cut u pretty good deals

that or dig around in the dumpsters out back after they close. i know people that have built entire computers out of parts theyve found.

[Guest]

STiSchucky wrote:
why dont you just make a trip to them 2nd rate computer stores like PC hurtz or computer renasance(nfi how to spell that)...they'll be glad to hook u up with something cheap from their junkyard. ive looked in the back rooms and they got stuff stockpiled so you probably can't go wrong there...plus they cut u pretty good deals

Computer Rennaisance = overpriced

PChertz = former employee and I hate them - they won't be around much longer.

I've already checked out some other stores around here, and found a few parts already at pcparts and supplies. I also bidded on some equipment from Fargo school network. Like I said I've done this before, so instead of posting on the thread, keep it relative, if you have the equipment post, if not, don't.

[STiSchucky]

It was just advice you asshole. Not like i fucking knew you worked with people from PC hertz geez. like amicheze said, you can find stuff for free, but lemme guess you already thought up that idea right.

[NickB]

spend the money for new shit...if the guys rich its obviously going to pay off

[Guest]

I apologize STISchucky, I didn't mean it directed completely towards you the quote was in mere referance to the ideas you pointed out. Nor did I expect you to know my previous employer background, I just need to find the parts, and want the thread kind of clean with people who reply on topic to the parts I asked for.

I appreciate the input though.

98exaccord: it won't pay off, this is equipment that will be setup and probally never touched again. The cheaper the better - cuz in quite honesty the less underbudget I go, the more I get paid this is the way the IT world works sometimes. It's just balancing reliability/stability with cost effectiveness.

[STiSchucky]

i dont understand how that wasn't on topic but ok.

[mym6]

damn it all, my post never made it.

In summary, I've never heard of Navision but I use Great Plains which requires MSSQL and I run it on Windows Server 2003 which is the first MS server I've gained trust in.

For a simple cheap KVM that works good try:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=1158330

[Jim]

I disagree... if your looking for a decent computer, you can build one for under $300... easily.

Using used computer equipment as servers is asking for trouble. Do it right the first time.

Cheaping out is almost never the best option. Why don't you just buy five motherboards with integrated everything, five cases w/ powersupplies, five OEM harddrives, etc...

Its cheap... Oh so very cheap.

I just helped Brian and Kevin smith put together computers for $400-500; this includes an Athlon 3200+, Motherboard, Geforce 4, 512mb Ram, 80gb 7200rpm harddrive, Case (ricer case w/ neons), DVD Dual Layer 16x Burner.

That is total overkill for what you'd need.

[STiSchucky]

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[Guest]

Jim - exactly, why get DDR SDRAM memory modules and current socket sets when its not nessecary - I was trying to build the components for $150 or less, since I have a few cases and now a few PSU's. But for my personal computer I didnt skim....

Athlon 3400+ (1mb L2 cache_
MSI K8N-Neo2 Platinum Pro (Nforce-4 350 chipset)
TDK Dual Layer DVD-RW
Samsung CD-RW/DVD-ROM
2 x Western Digial 36GB 10k RPM (RAID 0)
BRAND NEW Geforce6800 BFG OC (Factory overcloked GPU - going to get a silencer and tweak it up even more
1GB Muskin PC3200 (TRUE 2-2-2 CAS timing)

I don't know exactly how much I've spent on it. But ask flowcus, the thing is amazingly fast and I love it to bits and pieces

anyways like I said, I'm mostly in dire need of used Cisco router/switches and a KVM switch, if you have cheap cpu's/boards that are relatively new (2-4 years) I want them. I know what I'm doing with this stuff, been doing it for years so please if you have them post them please. If I don't hear anything by tommorow from you guys I will just newegg it up like I always do......

[Jim]

You don't have to use DDR SDRAM you can look for motherboards that still use PC 133, lots of them super cheap out there.

Anyway, I'm sure you know what your doing, just if it were me, I'd just spend the little extra thats all...

Don't worry i wasn't frontin on your 1337 h4x0r knowledge... you and i both know what can go in a pimp comptuer haha

[Guest]

mym6 wrote:
damn it all, my post never made it.

In summary, I've never heard of Navision but I use Great Plains which requires MSSQL and I run it on Windows Server 2003 which is the first MS server I've gained trust in.

For a simple cheap KVM that works good try:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=1158330

Navision is from MBS - the same great company that brings you Great Plains - Great Plains tends to be the most popular - however Navision has a lot of certain strongpoints that seem to work out for a few of the companies. I don't deal MBS products, nor sell them, partners do and I am not a partner, so the reasons why he went to navision I don't know but the fact is that like Great Plains it also runs on SQL, as does his CRM solution which also needs SQL.

EDIT: Thanks for the tip from mwave on the kvm switch; mwave is an excellent reseller and I ordered that kvm switch, looked exactly what I needed especially with the LED display.

[STiSchucky]

[Guest]

Jim wrote:
You don't have to use DDR SDRAM you can look for motherboards that still use PC 133, lots of them super cheap out there.

Anyway, I'm sure you know what your doing, just if it were me, I'd just spend the little extra thats all...

Don't worry i wasn't frontin on your 1337 h4x0r knowledge... you and i both know what can go in a pimp comptuer haha

1337 h4x0r LOL I haven't heard that one forever

I once was in WI and saw a license plate that sayd 1337 and I yelled out " 'Leet " (pronounced L-ee-t) everyone kind of looked at me funny - guess no one can't be pimp like us eh Jim?

[STiSchucky]

1337 g4m3|?