concordia college
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Flowcus wrote:
College isnt always the best investment. Im working... learning a trade for free... and getting paid to do it. And its something that will always be needed in the world no matter what. Things like computers and networking arent in such high demand anymore... just think what they will be like 10 to 15 years down the road.Once I get my journeyman license ill never have to worry about looking for a job again. And once I get my masters I can start my own business. And its not like im not making jack shit... once im done with my apprenticeship ill be making more than 95% of the people I graduated with.
strange, 2nd fastest growing job in the market PERIOD according to forbes, and every other employment agency in the nation. Sorry have to disagree on this one. We are only behind nurses right now which is the highest in demand.
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out there wrote:
i'm still not sure about what i'll be majoring in, but i'm considering law school afterwards, and concordia offers a pre-law programIf you're intersted in law enough to select a school based on it having a "pre-law" program, go to a school that actually has a respected Law School! (UND in the area or U of M). It should be obvious why - you don't go to Joseph's School of Hair if you want a Masters in Mathmatics from MIT
Common sense I would think....
Fvckin machine took my quarter
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Dangler wrote:
I don't know where you got that idea. Talented people in the technology industry make good coin and they always will. I can give you a dozen open positions in the technology industry (Fgo\Mpls\Redmond) if you have the right skills and personalityFor once Danger, I have to agree with you. People who are talented, can develop, and innovate new more efficient ideas to improve a companies backbone, being their digital "mainframe" whether it be data integrity, networking, or POS - will ALWAYS make LARGE amounts of money. $100k + if you start marketing yourself and get a very good position within a company. Understand that the money they pay you is reflective the money you save them/make for them and in the IT industry that is a LARGE amount.
and I won't go into how much more, or exactly I make compared to my graduate class from Shanley. I'm very confident in what I make and what I take is very well respected for my age. However, I'm not satisfied nor will I ever be, in America the only way to really make money is to be your own business. I hope to privatize the skillbase and knowledge from numerous employers and expose myself to intricate networks around the nation before I start that endeavour. But time will only tell.
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2k3WRXND wrote:
strange, 2nd fastest growing job in the market PERIOD according to forbes, and every other employment agency in the nation. Sorry have to disagree on this one. We are only behind nurses right now which is the highest in demand.its true 2nd fastest...
flowcus where do you get your statistics?
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Dangler wrote:
If you're intersted in law enough to select a school based on it having a "pre-law" program, go to a school that actually has a respected Law School! (UND in the area or U of M). It should be obvious why - you don't go to Joseph's School of Hair if you want a Masters in Mathmatics from MITCommon sense I would think....
Mr UND Alumni speaks right Brett?
Actually UND offers an excellent program for law, but once again, I've noticed in my personal record that Concordia alumni pull strings. I'm sure UND does too, but it seems more dominant in this area then others. I guess if you want to get out of the region go to UND - since a degree is a degree, your work will be acreddited to the quality of the work and not how much money you spent on your education in a perfect world. But if you decide to stay in the region, Concordia may be the way to go.
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Dangler wrote:
If you're intersted in law enough to select a school based on it having a "pre-law" program, go to a school that actually has a respected Law School! (UND in the area or U of M). It should be obvious why - you don't go to Joseph's School of Hair if you want a Masters in Mathmatics from MITCommon sense I would think....
I'm not sure how good UND's law program is, but the U of M is considered to be top 20 in the nation. What I've heard, it's very hard to get in, yet once you're in, it's not easy to graduate with a degree.
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Pipefitters and plumbers are two totally different jobs... pipefitters only solder some copper here and there. Pipefitters do steam piping and what not... and hot and cold water mains and supplies throught buildings if it requires them to do it, otherwise plumbers take care of that.
And yes im an apprentice commercial plumber, and dangler I could give you 30+ high paying jobs in my trade in this area alone
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Dangler wrote:
If you're intersted in law enough to select a school based on it having a "pre-law" program, go to a school that actually has a respected Law School! (UND in the area or U of M).please don't misunderstand, but i'm leaning towards concordia because it is smaller, more close-knit (as drake has pointed out), and offers a variety. after getting a 2year business degree from ntc, i've decided that i want something more... perhaps law or medicine. i know i can do anything, it's just a matter of deciding, i'm sure you can understand what i mean.
i would go for und, but i don't know that i'm prepared to leave this area for something that i can achieve in my backyard, proverbially. not only that, but i have to keep up my part of the house payment while i go to school. not that this will be a problem, i have a steady position that i earn enough just working weekends.T ! N wrote:
I'm not sure how good UND's law program is, but the U of M is considered to be top 20 in the nation. What I've heard, it's very hard to get in, yet once you're in, it's not easy to graduate with a degree.university of mary? or minnesota (in minneapolis)?
this is exactly why i started this thread, i wanted to get thoughts on schools from people that have been there, are there, or are in the same boat as i am. please keep the discussion going
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If you plan to stick around the area I would look into the tri-college approach...much more flexibility with your schedule and you get to try out each of the three universities in the area (to a certain extent). Once you choose the major that suites you, after your liberal studies crap is in place, you can always transfer to the school of your liking. That is my plan of action for the time being and many of my classmates in the engineering and business management field are doing the same.
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Off topic before i get banned
I dont get Tad218's sig..George W. Bush --"I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein."—May 25, 2004 .
correct me if im wrong, but dont people have 2 hands now-a-days?
Back on topic...Goto University of California Santa Barbra...UCSB GAUCHOS!
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Flowcus wrote:
And yes im an apprentice commercial plumber, and dangler I could give you 30+ high paying jobs in my trade in this area alone . Instigator what trade are you in?I edited my original post... I'm guessing the "high paying jobs" is a relative statement in this discussion.....
Fvckin machine took my quarter
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Flowcus wrote:
Pipefitters and plumbers are two totally different jobs... pipefitters only solder some copper here and there. Pipefitters do steam piping and what not... and hot and cold water mains and supplies throught buildings if it requires them to do it, otherwise plumbers take care of that.Ok, I'm just a stupid controls guy, but in the above statement, they sound like they do the SAME thing.
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they all hook pipes together, but crazy union guys got together and said hey, lets think of a way to fuck a lot of people over and this is what they came up with...three specialized jobs that could all be done by one person.
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Pretty much... They basically took plumbing and split it into 2 parts... Pipefitters use black steel and groove and thread pipe... basically why its called pipefitting... they fit pipe together and generally do heating/cooling supplies and shit like this.
Plumbers use copper to supply water, and use cast-iron and PVC plastic for waste... There is a difference but not much... both do run pipes, but both also do different things with the pipes their running and use different materials. I dont know a whole hell of a lot about pipefitters but they are different. You will never see a pipefitter running a floor drain, roof drain, a carrier for toilet, blah blah blah.
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I thought there were three parts?
...pipefitters, plumbers, and bitches(apprentices/journeymen)edit: laugh flowcus, dont yell at me
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