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Freedom of speech should have some sort of limit, don'tcha think?

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  • 2wheeler2 Offline
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    PSiedTSi wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ams176XH7A8&NR
    Yes, that's the original video.......what's your comment?

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      lord_deastofact wrote:
      it does, it's called the 9th amendment. your rights stop where someone elses start. it's the basis of our freedoms.
      So what are you saying? Do they deserve money or not?

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      • ColinC Offline
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        No money, just because he's famous is no reason to make him pay anything. A court wouldn't make me pay anything for railing on you so they should treat this no differently.

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          origonally it was asked if there should be limits on speech and there already are, they are built into the framework. other then that I just think that situation is messed up and he was out of line on stage... but thats me...

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            lord_deastofact wrote:
            origonally it was asked if there should be limits on speech and there already are, they are built into the framework. other then that I just think that situation is messed up and he was out of line on stage... but thats me...
            So you think they should get paid? You still haven't made your stance on the issue clear to me.

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              i think those guys need to have there asses kicked for whining bout that shit...everyone is a racist... and there momma's should have taught them bout having balls when they get made fun of when they were prolly making fun of him

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                i love how the interview shows the video like richards is going on this huge racist rant, but then u see the original un cut video u can kind of understand whats going on a little more,
                todays comedians use the shock factor to make u laugh and i believe thats whats he's going for

                it basicaly a group of rude people that disrupted his performance and he got upset, when u go to a movie do u show up late with a huge group of laud people and not expect somebody to say something about it?

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q8LxO4wnCQ
                has a white person ever tried to sue a black comedian for what he says?
                im tired of hearing about all this racist bullshit! its goes both ways but u only hear one side bitching about it

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                  no i don't think they should get paid, i do however think the comedian should make an apology.

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                  • SmitEvoS Offline
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                    they shouldnt get a penny.....but richards is an idiot

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                      2wheeler wrote:
                      Yes, that's the original video.......what's your comment?

                      What he said was terrible, and I can't believe anyone would say that, let alone someone performing in a comedy club(I do not condone their language back at him either, but he was more deserving of it, but it still wasn't right). BUT, I don't think that money is needed in this issue. Maybe a better apology....I thought his apology was kind of shitty...

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                        That Chris Rock link was great. The dipshit Gloria Alred (the attorney) is a prime example of what is screwed up in the country right now, typical far left screwball. The boys got their feelings hurt and whoever hurt their feelings should pay them money. She even friggin used a horrible example of breaking a window and having to pay... well no shit sherlock, if you break something physically you should pay for it. But because you hurt someone's feelings doesn't mean you have to pay them money. Hell, we'd all be paying someone else money all the damn time (I'd probably be paying someone for what I just wrote).

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                          I thinks it's complete and utter bullshit that they think they should get money because of what he said.

                          FUCK!!! what a crock. It makes me very angry that I seen that video. Oh well, I'm gonna go beat the wife and kids. That'll make things better.

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                            RANDOM FACT: there really is no such thing as "freedom of speech." theres nothing in the constitution that says "people can say whatever they want." all it says is that congress cant pass anything that limits what people can and cant say. i bet most people dont know that.

                            random fact aside, thats just stupid. the guys called him more different racial names than he did them. people will whine and bitch about anything to get free money. its sad.

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                              BS, wtf does money have to do with it? I am with Schell on this one.. I am soooo fuckin sick of this racism fucking bull shit. Then they get that dumb bitch on there, "Blah blah, we will get some of his money, blah blah".

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                                weshole wrote:
                                I thinks it's complete and utter bullshit that they think they should get money because of what he said.

                                FUCK!!! what a crock. It makes me very angry that I seen that video. Oh well, I'm gonna go beat the wife and kids. That'll make things better.

                                i take offese to that comment. by you as a white person saying u are gonna "go beat the wife and kids" racial profiles all whites as wife and kids beaters
                                i have consulted my lawyer and we are sueing u and ur group of "veritas" wife and kid beaters

                                im gonna be rich!!!

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                                  amicheze wrote:
                                  RANDOM FACT: there really is no such thing as "freedom of speech." theres nothing in the constitution that says "people can say whatever they want." all it says is that congress cant pass anything that limits what people can and cant say. i bet most people dont know that.

                                  random fact aside, thats just stupid. the guys called him more different racial names than he did them. people will whine and bitch about anything to get free money. its sad.

                                  First amendment:

                                  <u>Congress shall make no law</u> respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or <u>abridging the freedom of speech</u>, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

                                  [SIZE=2]And no, they should not get a penny. If they are going to sue someone for calling someone else a "n@gger" then they need to sue the entire rap industry, starting with the black rap artists.
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                                    Like Ami and Tjamz already pointed out, only Congress can't limit speech. State governments that don't have some freedom of speech clause in their state constitutions/bill of rights can pass any restriction on speech they please, as well as private institutions and such. Freedom of speech doesn't exist the way people make it out to exist.

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                                      StangerBanger96, you need more shit in your sig file.

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                                        DaveH wrote:
                                        StangerBanger96, you need more shit in your sig file.

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                                        I usually add more on Tuesdays and Thursdays when im @ work for 6 hours straight and have nothing to do after the first 30 minutes of work 😄

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                                          StangerBanger96 wrote:
                                          Like Ami and Tjamz already pointed out, only Congress can't limit speech. State governments that don't have some freedom of speech clause in their state constitutions/bill of rights can pass any restriction on speech they please, as well as private institutions and such. Freedom of speech doesn't exist the way people make it out to exist.

                                          Not true. That would be like saying that states can say they won't let women vote, or that their citizens cannot own guns, or that there can only be state run newspapers. Or even that ND could say, ok, from this point forward the only recognized religion is Hindu, anyone found to be following a different faith shall be tried on treason charges.

                                          Sorry StangerBanger, you are wrong on your assumption above.

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