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  • S Offline
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    slowvo
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    #17

    But...what other technology increases lift?

    the main reason variable cam timing started was on cars is for emissions, just recently they are using it for performance purposes

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      treimche
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      I have VVTI, you should hear when it kicks in, it actually kicks harder than Chuck Norris.

      Troy
      2009 Yamaha R1
      2002 WRX
      2001 Toyota Tundra
      2001 Yamaha R6
      1988 Yamaha YSR 50
      2003 XR50

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        King Ricer
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        #19

        Shane's lotus has VVTi and it hits hard and sounds damn good!!!

        > Trafik Jamz;299122 wrote:
        > But Freitag is a slut....everyone knows this!

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          SmitEvo
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          damn n00bs!

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          • RidinRailsR Offline
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            RidinRails
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            #21

            i like my AVCS....but i cant even tell when it kicks in...SHITTY!

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              ticklemedaly
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              #22

              VVTi is Toyota's answer for Honda's V T E C. Im not too familiar with VVTi, but Honda's i V T E C not only increases lift, but changes the phasing of the opening/closing of the intake valves. But holy shit does it suck gas down when mine kicks in.....

              XBL G-tag: TickleMeDaly83

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                slowvo
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                #23

                VVTI doesnt increase lift.
                VANOS doesnt...
                CVVT doesnt...
                AVCS doesnt...
                MIVEC doesnt on the EVO...

                Honda wins.

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                  2slo50h
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                  #24

                  stfu > vvti

                  Most favorite DSM Quote to date.
                  "rastimg: owning a DSM is like having a retarded kid, you love it just like a normal car, but you constantly have to fix shit on it and make sure it doesnt embarrass you in public"

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                    3_Series
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #25

                    VANOS doesn't increase lift, but Valvetronic does.

                    2002 Subaru Legacy
                    1993 BMW 325i (sold)

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                      Parker
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                      #26

                      2slo50h wrote:
                      stfu > vvti
                      i like your idea

                      10 Jeep
                      10 F450
                      08 F250
                      05 F350
                      86 rx7
                      70 F100
                      63 Olds

                      > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                      > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                      > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                      > You are right Parker.

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                      • JoelJ Offline
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                        Joel
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                        #27

                        slowvo wrote:
                        VVTI doesnt increase lift.
                        VANOS doesnt...
                        CVVT doesnt...
                        AVCS doesnt...
                        MIVEC doesnt on the EVO...

                        Honda wins.
                        and has been since the frist NSX, once again HONDA>everyone....

                        no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                          Afsil80
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                          #28

                          Velveeta sucks.

                          -Peter

                          1991 240SX
                          legacy image

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                            2slo50h
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                            Saab Variable Compression (SVC)>honda and its silly V tec

                            Variable compression:

                            When you need more power, the supercharger clutch engages, the monohead hinges upwards, the compression ratio reduces and the SVC engine can cope with huge boost pressures. The compression ratio runs at whatever gives the best efficiency for the moment, across a range from 8:1 through to 14:1

                            http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2005/09/post.html

                            DISCUSS

                            HONDAHATER4LIFE.....

                            Most favorite DSM Quote to date.
                            "rastimg: owning a DSM is like having a retarded kid, you love it just like a normal car, but you constantly have to fix shit on it and make sure it doesnt embarrass you in public"

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                              Joel
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                              #30

                              why wouldnt they just build the motor to handle the supercharged at 14 psi. Variable compression only means one thing; the motors are too weak to hold boost...

                              no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                24valvenotak
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                                wannabe wrote:
                                why wouldnt they just build the motor to handle the supercharged at 14 psi. Variable compression only means one thing; the motors are too weak to hold boost...

                                why does that mean they are too weak to hold boost? there is a reason fi cars dont run 9:1 and 10:1 compression. You raise compression, get better mpg... lower compression as throttle raises and make horsepower? sounds kinda like vcrap, except good?

                                Someone tell the current management at GM about this shelved SAAB technology, which offers better performance and better fuel economy than their proposed hybrid!

                                gm owned

                                edit: 1.8 bar is not 14lbs, noob

                                Getcher green hat, we are goin fishin.

                                > 63vette;288530 wrote:
                                > I dont know shit about building cars.

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                                  Joel
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #32

                                  I meant 14:1 compression, tired post, wasn'treading it right...

                                  no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                    SmitEvo
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                                    Here is a simple breakdown that usually applies....

                                    honda= for n00b high school drivers since that is usually all they can afford. Reliable engine that has no power. Usually a tuners first car and they get excited about exhaust because they just gained 1 hp. Can beat cavaliers, geo metros, etc....

                                    dsm= intermediate to advanced. High powered platform that may blow up if pushed to the limit. smokes honda's all day long. costs more to fix than a honda. usually doesnt race a honda because they are a waste of their time.

                                    evo or sti= ultimate driving machine under 30,000 that has a powerful platform and potential to run 11's all day long with minor bolt ons. When they see a honda line up next to them, they dont even look over because they know it would be a waste of there time...

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                                      DelSlow
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                                      99slowGSX wrote:
                                      Here is a simple breakdown that usually applies....

                                      honda= for n00b high school drivers since that is usually all they can afford. Reliable engine that has no power. Usually a tuners first car and they get excited about exhaust because they just gained 1 hp. Can beat cavaliers, geo metros, etc....
                                      Yeah GSR, eat that!

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                                        2slo50h
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                                        #35

                                        Imagine if there was a more advanced, tunable engine management to go along with the variable compression.

                                        Fuel economy aside.
                                        In simplest terms I can think of with out writing a book on the idea, which would probably be easier than breaking it down.

                                        Take a turbocharged engine that makes full boost around 4k rpm. As nice as that is, your lower rpm suffer on account of the low compression, low psi..

                                        But say in a perfect world if you could raise compression, in the lower RPM range obviously, before your turbo spooled how much of a difference it would make...

                                        Being able to run more boost, at higher RPM, without the low end loss of lower compression.

                                        Most favorite DSM Quote to date.
                                        "rastimg: owning a DSM is like having a retarded kid, you love it just like a normal car, but you constantly have to fix shit on it and make sure it doesnt embarrass you in public"

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                                        • JoelJ Offline
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                                          Joel
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                                          #36

                                          its not like you can't boost a high compression motor... it just needs to be built...

                                          no race car? becuz homeowner...

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