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wannabe wrote:
Al I was doing, tufte, was bringing up the fact that while he might own a High compression boosted car, He doesn't race it on the streets, and when he's at the track he doesn't run decent times for the cars potential. I never claimed to know all, and he talks a lot of shit for someone who can't handle his car. Not saying I can do better, but I'm not the one running my mouth...Define a decent time? The 10th pass out on a STREET tune this year it ran 10.8 @ 136. It's run low 11s more times than you've ever seen the 15s.
Define my potential of my car? What do you know about it? Single stage boost no traction bars, 3 year old tires and 10.8 @ 136 on the 10th pass of the year, fuck thats horrible. Oh then it didn't do it again, but weird, that failing fuel pump completely fucked the tune over on the last weekend. I must really suck.
I've raced plenty of shit on the street, don't care to do it anymore period. Why risk my drivers license, my insurance, MY JOB, or my life. If you knew the back story on that night against the bike's you'd probably be able to talk shit, but I guess you really have no clue.
Go back to running back and forth and stirring shit up between shops because that's about all you are good at.
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I have road in a couple 10/11sec cars as a passenger on the street and driven one or two at some point in time you realize the difference between a 13 sec car, or 15 in your case, and a 10/11 sec cars scare factor for one thing, it inst quite the clockwork you make it out to be...
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wannabe wrote:
and he talks a lot of shit for someone who can't handle his car.granny shifting, not double clutching like he should?:rolleyes:
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wannabe wrote:
I think when people hit that crossover point, its easier to say **** kicked in, than Damn, my cams just changed over to a much more aggressive profile.Part of what you're missing is that most variable valve timing systems don't have a "cross over point". The reason that **** is very pronounced is because it is a dual-cam-profile system - you're either on the hot cam or the cold cam. I don't know if more modern **** systems do cam phasing in addition to the profile-change over (i don't think early **** did that but i'm frankly not an expert or a honda historian
)With a VANOS system, and probably most cam phasing systems, you won't feel any sort of "step function" at all - the motor will just be making more torque than a non-adjustable engine with that cam grind would be at the same RPM and load.
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99slowGSX wrote:
Turbo> anything elsecorrection
Forced Induction > everything else.
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I think that claim requires some qualification
I've yet to drive a turbo car that replicates the throttle response and dynamic characteristics of a well built NA engine. Of course, i haven't driven that many turbo cars.. a bpu supra, an S12, a probe.. various audis..
Thankfully, as turbo systems continue to evolve, the usual characteristic differences between them and tuned NA systems continue to get smaller, so hopefully soon one will not generally have to choose between the big power of a turbo system vs the steady state heat, repeatability, and responsiveness of NA systems.
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thrash wrote:
Part of what you're missing is that most variable valve timing systems don't have a "cross over point". The reason that **** is very pronounced is because it is a dual-cam-profile system - you're either on the hot cam or the cold cam. I don't know if more modern **** systems do cam phasing in addition to the profile-change over (i don't think early **** did that but i'm frankly not an expert or a honda historian )With a VANOS system, and probably most cam phasing systems, you won't feel any sort of "step function" at all - the motor will just be making more torque than a non-adjustable engine with that cam grind would be at the same RPM and load.
What would you call it if there was no change over ...
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HAHHA wannabe.....seems like it fits... i tell you what, not only would i not race nicks car on the street, i am not sure i wanna ride in it on the highway ever again. You seriously have no fuckin clue. I have read this whole tread, and all i see is you not gettin the point here. And as far as that last video, that depicts a honda going from "Super Economy Mode" to "Regular Economy". I have seen NA LS Motors ass rape **** Motors. Why, cuz fuckin **** has nothing to do with the performance of the car. All you are doing with **** is waiting longer for what little extra power you may recieve. Nicks car never hits crossover cuz it is always on the big lobes.
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so nicks cars is fast cuz its always in **********!?!?
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bader3245 wrote:
HAHHA wannabe.....seems like it fits... i tell you what, not only would i not race nicks car on the street, i am not sure i wanna ride in it on the highway ever again. You seriously have no fuckin clue. I have read this whole tread, and all i see is you not gettin the point here. And as far as that last video, that depicts a honda going from "Super Economy Mode" to "Regular Economy". I have seen NA LS Motors ass rape **** Motors. Why, cuz fuckin **** has nothing to do with the performance of the car. All you are doing with **** is waiting longer for what little extra power you may recieve. Nicks car never hits crossover cuz it is always on the big lobes.
Ok, so your telling me that an LS motor has more potential than say an ITR motor? ask any NA honda guy and see what they say...
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