Welders

[Joel]

zbrown;191379 wrote:
Most of all production shops the welder has only slight control over a machine....

But in the new inverter machines there are so many cool things you can work with it is definately neat.....

i didn't work on a line, I had my own machine with my own tank. DMI isnt really a production sho as each product is so huge we dont have menotenous parts welding.
I welded anywhere from 1/4" to 1 1/2" and trust me, the welder needs to be set right to pass CWB testing.

We went to airgas and there was a lincoln rep showing off the powermig350, that thing was the shit, especially for aluminum.

[DrifterExtreme]

zbrown;191376 wrote:
I could hold my own against about anyone in any process, most people think they are such "great" welders but they really dont understand how to set a machine up or even the philosophy behind the different processes

i don't need to know the "philosopy" to put a damn weld on some shit...
:stirpot:

[GarageAlchemist]

dammit Joel, take Jims pic off your avatar, i read that post about you working at DMI and i couldnt figure out when the hell Jim worked at DMI

[Used]

Theres a college course at the skills center thats really good.. Did it myself the Lee the teacher is a great guy and an amazing welder. Thats you best bet imo

[thurmanmerman]

wannabe;191367 wrote:
ii'll have a mig weld-off.

Ill take up that offer.

[bubba]

wannabe;191367 wrote:
ii'll have a mig weld-off.

A trained monkey could probably even mig weld...how bout an arc weld-off, I love watching people get all frustrated and pissed when they keep getting the rod to stick. When I took metals even the most retarded kids could mig, but most of the people in the class couldn't arc weld to save their life...

[zbrown]

i can about imagine

[harwood39]

ndscs for sure, im in the welding program right now, you can take it at the skills center in fargo. it is a much better course than daves. It is much longer and you get more theory and technical info.

[thurmanmerman]

harwood39;191423 wrote:
ndscs for sure, im in the welding program right now, you can take it at the skills center in fargo. it is a much better course than daves. It is much longer and you get more theory and technical info.

BULLSHIT! You can read a book about welding all day and when time comes to lay a bead it will look like shit. Dave's does 95% hands on actual welding. Just cause its a longer course doesn't mean shit.

[zbrown]

thurmanmerman;191449 wrote:
BULLSHIT! You can read a book about welding all day and when time comes to lay a bead it will look like shit. Dave's does 95% hands on actual welding. Just cause its a longer course doesn't mean shit.

wow are you serious?? I am not even going to argue with such idiotic statement

Even in a simple process like MIG i bet you dont even understand the principle or differences between the different transfers like Spray, Pluse, or Short Arc... or how different sheilding gases affect penetration or why

My dad has always been an excellent welder even without any welding education, because he has tons of experience..........

but when i tell him things and he understands why certain things are doing what they may it makes him a that much better welder

[zbrown]

Lets put my education up against your awsome "class"

I would own you in every single process......

[zbrown]

harwood39;191423 wrote:
ndscs for sure, im in the welding program right now, you can take it at the skills center in fargo. it is a much better course than daves. It is much longer and you get more theory and technical info.

first year?

If you're a second year guy pay attention to Joel, and how he jigs things up, he knows his shit

[MisterCMK]

Bah, what do you know Zac? :lol:

BTW, bbq on Thursday?

[Joel]

Ok, just so you know zach, we learn about Globular, Spray, short circuit etc.
The only difference between NDSCS and Daves is that the NDSCS program gets more extensivly into shit you don't need in most production fields...
Dave's teaches you everything you need to know to become a good welder(other than the stuff which you learn in industry, which even 2 years in school cant teach you) and NDSCS teaches you a lot of theory, and extra information which is helpful but not necessarily as important as straight up skill.

[Joel]

harwood39;191423 wrote:
ndscs for sure, im in the welding program right now, you can take it at the skills center in fargo. it is a much better course than daves. It is much longer and you get more theory and technical info.
Ask your teacher why the local skills contests stop asking dave's students to come in.... They always waxed the 2 year tech school kids.

I started at the same time as a kid who graduated form NDSCS with a welding degree, we called him fat Jeff. He always wore his jacket telling everyone he could weld so much better, and then when they asked him to be a door welder, he could never pass any tests... I passed the door test first try... along with the other two people in my class who started with me at DMI....

As soon as you finish your school, let me know and we'll have a weld-off.

Zac, you've been welding forever, not just in school, so your situation is a little different.

[zbrown]

I am done arguing, it is pointless

lets get this out first...... AWS contest>>>>>>>10x's >>>>> skills contest

I won the AWS contest in SMAW (stick) in which i was competing against more that just students i was competing against "in the industry welders" aka old guys

over 65 people if i remember right

with open root joints and out of position

that is where i won my 200 dollar hood

[Used]

ok so the people that weld all of our space shuttles airplanes race cars our fucking pipe welders. just got all of there exp from welding at places like Case and Dmi Bobcat? Get really, fuck so you can put down a flat bead and you think you can weld, shit. School matters if you want to do something other then production lines. Just my 2 cents.

[Joel]

Zac, my point was is that your welding skill is not completely due to going to school.

Just cuz u won a welding contest doesn't mean your school is better than someone who didn't...

Go challenge Dave Lynnes to a weld-off...

[Joel]

Used;191476 wrote:
ok so the people that weld all of our space shuttles airplanes race cars our fucking pipe welders. just got all of there exp from welding at places like Case and Dmi Bobcat? Get really, fuck so you can put down a flat bead and you think you can weld, shit. School matters if you want to do something other then production lines. Just my 2 cents.

The only reason school matters for those things is because you have a certificate that says you dedicated 2 years of your life to learn everything there is to know about welding. That knowledge doesnt make their welds look better or make them stronger.

[Used]

wannabe;191478 wrote:
The only reason school matters for those things is because you have a certificate that says you dedicated 2 years of your life to leanr everything there is to know about welding. that knowledge doesnt make their welds look better or make them stronger.

pop quiz hotshot what gas mixture would you use on welding titanium