Gas Prices Through The Roof

[amicheze]

dubbsy;193509 wrote:
Was talking to a trucker this morning at work....

With last week's fuel price is was costing him roughly $0.73/mile to haul. There is going to be a bunch of those guys that'll hang it up if fuel prices get much higher. Nothing gets shipped and the people on the other end go out of business.

As some point it has to hit a breaking point.

Never really thought of that.

How high do you suppose it would have to get for it to be inefficient to actually ship gas anymore?

[thrash]

how much does gas currently depend on trucks? pipelines and rail cars do a lot of the long-haul shipping already i think... you mostly see trucks for in-town distribution don't you ?

rail is incredibly efficient compared to trucking. Since the # of distribution points and the number of drop off points for fuel is pretty limited, i suspect pipeline and rail does a fair bit of the long-hauling already.

[amicheze]

thrash;193568 wrote:
how much does gas currently depend on trucks? pipelines and rail cars do a lot of the long-haul shipping already i think... you mostly see trucks for in-town distribution don't you ?

rail is incredibly efficient compared to trucking. Since the # of distribution points and the number of drop off points for fuel is pretty limited, i suspect pipeline and rail does a fair bit of the long-hauling already.

Yeah that makes sense.

[assasain]

im sure the fuel prices would have to get pretty outrageous before it will just "hit a breaking point" because push come to shove our now day society rely on fuel every day, and someone will always be willing to pay the outrageous prices, nomatter what they are.

[dubbsy]

oh I don't doubt fuel it's self will quit being hauled. I'd bet that'd be one of the last things to see a shutdown by truckers. Also have to realize when you say that fuel is mainly rail... This state is much bigger than the 4 big metro areas... and it needs to get to outlying areas. None the less, I don't see that side of things shutting down...

BUT, take a look at our situation... Many dairy farms in Iowa rely on feed being shipped in (that's what happens to all of ours). That increased cost gets passed on to them and eventually they reach a point where they can't do it anymore... (especially when you add in the price of corn). Dairies go and price of milk products continue to go up....
On that same note... farmers quit buying equipment due to fuel prices - john deere quits building/shipping equipment and our semis don't even make it up this way period.

Boss and I were talking about this.. if private truckers give it up... you'll have places like wal-mart that run and pay for their own trucks. Which means only wal-mart will survive which leads is to the Communist Republic of Wal-Mart.

Mark my words.

[MisterCMK]

And with all of that demand will drop and prices will also drop.

[Bookem]

zbrown;193254 wrote:
Yeah I saw #1 diesel was 3.95 last night too... yikes, cold weather stay away

I have a Question that hopefully someone can answer, so i dont have to start a thread

Is all the diesel at the pumps in town ULSD? Because even the truck stops still have a ULSD sticker on the bottom of the pump... whats the deal... or is clear only offered in ULSD now, for emissons?

Because i want non ULSD in the old girl

 I don't know if you got your answer already but there might be a couple places still offering the 500ppm sulfur fuel. I would start running the new ulsd anyways, sooner you do the less you will be worried about it. It will clean out your tank(s), lines and plug up filters with the gunk but just change it more often. You will probably notice less than a 5% loss in milage but the most important thing to do is get lubricity back in the fuel by using treatments like Howes or Power service, both are good and proven to be effective.

Yes transportation prices are going up as we speak, most companies are trying to wait to pass this onto the consumer til after the new year. But who knows when the fuel prices will go down if ever, I hope soon my hobbies are being severely cut down.

[KA-T_240]

Zac, if you need fuel treatments and additives, go talk to my dad.

[Bookem]

Does your dad get some good bulk prices?

[weshole]

Bookem;193823 wrote:
I hope soon my hobbies are being severely cut down.

It's a good thing I started collecting bikes. Looks like I'll be doing some winter riding. Unless it's hela cold out. I've already cut my driving by 75% to save a few pennies here and there.

[dubbsy]

weshole;193849 wrote:
It's a good thing I started collecting bikes. Looks like I'll be doing some winter riding. Unless it's hela cold out.

last time I rode in the winter I would've like to break my hip...

Going to have to buy a bike next spring though.. maybe even one with a motor.

[bubba]

dubbsy;193595 wrote:
Which means only wal-mart will survive which leads is to the Communist Republic of Wal-Mart.

Mark my words.

Lol, that's funny but yet probably true... Makes me think of the Wal-mart episode of South Park...