Honda Swaps
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harwood39 wrote:
Im wondering about a few swaps for my civic. Is a b20 swap posible? Whats the pros and cons on a b16/b18 hybrid? b16/b20 hybrid?Depends on what you want really.
LS/VTEC somewhat cheap, makes decent power.
CR/VTEC (B20/VTEC) also somewhat cheap, makes good power
B20 = slow
B16 = waste of time
B18A/B = good bang for the buck
B18C1 = very good time, kindof pricey
B18C5 = very good time, even more priceyDownsides of anything with the B20 is that it is one of the weakest b series honda motors from the factory. Thin sleeves, weak cranks, horrible rods.
If you are looking for a GOOD bang for the buck swap and dont mind not having vtec I would just go with the straight LS swap. You can always add a vtec head to it later on down the line.
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there doesn't seem to be much difference between the b18a and b18b, probably just something within the head. find yourself a b18a/b in a junkyard, then bolt up a turbo. or... get a b18a/b block drilled and set-up for vtec and buy a vtec head. with bseries honda engines, options are virtually limitless
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harwood39 wrote:
I can get a JDM b18b2 OBD1 swap from total jdm for around $900. I will end up installing it my self. the b18b2 from them is vtech.NO
it is neither a phone (vtech) nor a vtec motor if it it a b18b, and for 900 you would be getting just the motor... no axles, no ecu, no tranny, etc, etc, etc....
reputable companies that sell the COMPLETE swap go for closer to 2,000
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go to totaljdm.com they sell everything with it. Tranny, wiring, ECU, etc, etc, etc...
Its 875 for the swap, than 150 for shipping
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Some things I think you need to seriously consider:
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Are you 100% sure you have the technical knowhow to complete an engine swap. Are you REALLY sure... Hmmmmm
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Realistically, do you have the money to do a swap right? $1025? Hmm... Engine swaps would be going on like mad if everybody could do it for that.
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There's a good website for all of your questions: http://www.honda-tech.com SEARCHING it before asking questions is always helpfull... 99.8% of the time the questions have been asked / answered.
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As you previously said, your car is totally stock besides a cd player, speakers and some removed exhaust resonators, perhaps it would be wise to start somewhere a little bit less drastic then an engine swap so your first project. A) Where would you work on the car? B) What are you going to be driving in the mean time? C) How much power are you actually going to gain?
In the past week, you've made several threads asking what you should to your honda, you've inquired about engine swaps, you've talked to many people about the same stuff more then once...
If your asking these questions, I dont think you should be attempting an engine swap, but don't get me wrong, I could be way off:
"haha, no thanks on selling it, i just got it on monday. should i do exhaust before turbo? when should i do a short shifter? Im new to the honda world so i need to hang out with some honda guys."
"Where can i get this intake temperature "chip" that wannabe is talking about?"
From reading your posts, I can infer that you don't really know what route to take yet with your car. Don't worry! It doesnt always come right away, you spoke about doing visual mods, then turbo, then swap... Just save up the money and do what you want!
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harwood39 wrote:
go to totaljdm.com they sell everything with it. Tranny, wiring, ECU, etc, etc, etc...Its 875 for the swap, than 150 for shipping
HERE IS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM TOTALJDM.COM:
"Title: Longblock Only!
Tip/Fact: We get alot of people asking us what is included. Well, this is a longblock, so no transmission, ECU, wiring or axles. All the components such as the distributor, alternator, plug wires, starter, etc... are present."
So there you have it... there's no way your going to be doing a swap for $1025... If your spending that much anyway, why not consider the B16 that is already for sale in fargo that includes it all, plus mods, those mods + engine are worth ALOT more then whatever junk this company is selling.
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I have the technical know how to do the swap. I would do it out at my friends shop. I have a 96 taurus wagon that i would drive during the swap work. I have rebuilt a couple motors and redone wiring in a couple cars (1978 Jeep CJ7, 1964 Chevy Pickup hotrod). they may have been older cars but it still gives me the know how to pull a motor and drop one in.
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