No more BP's is North Dakota
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KA-T_240;199718 wrote:
In ND you may not have, I normally only see it on the mid grade stuff (89 oct).Whats so bad about ethonal?
It eats away at rubber hoses...it costs more to produce than normal gasoline without subsidies, it burns faster than regular fuel which means you have to use more.
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Jim;199723 wrote:
Yeah Ethanol is bullshit...And premium doesn't have ethanol in it...
there is a gas station here in aberdeen that has 10% ethanol in the premium
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All the premium gas i've seen that has ethanol in it is at least like 93 octane.
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if the BPs are leaving. Brady's or what ever it is now, is the only station I know of that sells anything above 91 in town(besides race gas and E85). Unless you go to the Shell in Hawley.
E10 gas is not going to eat the rubber in your fuel lines...... I know a couple people that are running E85 in there S13s with stock fuel lines and all that and have no issues.
Also, one of many links i found that state ALL gasoline sold in MN has 10% ethonal.
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/11/15/ethanolpolicy/
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I'm fairly sure that the premium gas contains no ethanol...
they have signs and shit that say to use it in lawn mowers and stuff instead of the other grades of gas....
and in nearly all the pumps, they have "contains ethanol" on the lower two grades, and no sticker on the premium fuel.
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I have run E85 in my non-E85 ready car (I did tune for it though) for a couple of years now (since 2005 I think) with no ill results.
SmitEvo;199722 wrote:
It eats away at rubber hosesNot true anymore...hasn't been true since the 80's really
...it costs more to produce than normal gasoline without subsidies
North Dakota doesn't subsidize Ethanol anymore, and its still ~$.40/gallon cheaper than petro
it burns faster than regular fuel which means you have to use more.
Burns, if anything, slower (Higher Octane), you just need more ethanol to get the same amount of miles as gasoline (lower BTU's....for example, you need ~30% more E85 to travel the same distance as you would with regular gasoline). However, since it is a higher octane, you can run a bit leaner than normal and still avoid knock. I'm sure Bill or Andy can chime in a bit more on this subject.
Also, with Ethanol, there is no need for gas-line antifreeze (Heat) to keep the lines from freezing.
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gas station on 25th st. right off intestate has 92....alont with the station in moorhead that has the race gas.
most bp's are changing to holiday stations.
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tjamz;199810 wrote:
I have run E85 in my non-E85 ready car (I did tune for it though) for a couple of years now (since 2005 I think) with no ill results.Not true anymore...hasn't been true since the 80's really
Prove it...give me evidence not some statement.North Dakota doesn't subsidize Ethanol anymore, and its still ~$.40/gallon cheaper than petro
Bullshit...the FEDERAL government subsidizes it still and the farmers are first in line to receive aid. It costs more money to produce ethanol than regular gasoline. More transportation and refining costsBurns, if anything, slower (Higher Octane), you just need more ethanol to get the same amount of miles as gasoline (lower BTU's....for example, you need ~30% more E85 to travel the same distance as you would with regular gasoline). However, since it is a higher octane, you can run a bit leaner than normal and still avoid knock. I'm sure Bill or Andy can chime in a bit more on this subject. Bottom line it takes more than regular gasoline which offsets the cost savings.
Also, with Ethanol, there is no need for gas-line antifreeze (Heat) to keep the lines from freezing.
I dont agree...but the one positive is it is a cleaner fuel that does not pollute as much. I may be wrong, but am guessing that Andy and Bill would rather use regular race fuel if it was as cheap as normal pump gas.
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I agree with brian ethenol costs a shitload to produce
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