This place sucks... Really...
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My NOva wrote:
whats ur idea of better?
My idea of better? (I know, you asked nick, but this is my answer)Less drama between shops, people, etc...
Shops working TOGETHER to promote the scene here in town. Whether it be shows, dragraces, autox, whatever. I'm sure not all of the shops in Mpls get along super well w/ each other, but it seems that they manage to put that aside to host one big show a year (autovations) where all the shops are present (though propulshun is the main host).
Better would also be people actively trying to IMPROVE the image of the sport compact crowd by not fucking around when driving on city streets (out in the country is one thing, but its WAAAAAAYYYY too visible when we weave in and out of traffic in town and blow through stoplights and stuff).
Better would be not cocking off to V8 owners, lets face it, a lot of them are the generation just above me (35+). Sure, they call us rice burners and whatnot...be the bigger man, ask them to come to the track and watch some of us "riceburners" and see if their opinion changes. It will never change if we are cocky, we will always sound like little immature kids that don't know any better if we talk shit back to them.
Decent car clubs. Wouldn't it be great if different car clubs could get along and actually organize some events together? Whether it be a cruise, a race night, a BBQ, whatever. Right now all the clubs seem to have beef w/ the other clubs in town. So as soon as you make 15 new friends in one club you alienate 50 other people (and sometimes shops too) just by joining.
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O.K. here goes. Everyone that has posted on this IS RIGHT. All are valid points. Heres the big problem. This site is very young and it hasn't matured as fast as some of us (including me) would like. I absolutely WILL NOT dissagree with anyone on here on there views of this site. But I will lean to Nicks side on the post whoring. If someone asks a tech ? or even a simple one, it seems to turn into a flaming contest. It doesnt matter which forum it is either. AND I'M JUST AS GUILTY AS THE NEXT GUY FOR GETTING CAUGHT UP IN THE BULLSHIT FROM TIME TO TIME!! This site does however need moderators, and as it grows which I hope it does that need will be greater. Something that I know that Jim wont be able to do alone. From what I've read so far, it would seem that even Jim and Nick can't come to an agreement. That's something I thought that I would never see put into writing on the site. I don't live in Fargo-Moorhead either. I live here in good ol Fergus Falls. And if you thought the street scene in Fargo sucked, boy I've got an eye-opener for you. It's alot better there than here. There has been plenty I've learned from the site since it's inception and have meet a number of people since from the area since. half of which I never would have met had the site not existed. Now maybe I'm stepping overboard in say that I also wouldnt know the other half of the people without Nick and Kevin at SLS and I feel that Nick has contributed to the site as well as the scene in a positive way. In a perfect world this discussion wouldn't have taken place. But reality check time. THIS SITE CAN'T BE EVERYTHING TO EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME. I really feel for Jim in the fact that now he's got to make a decision on where to take the site from here. But the one thing that noone seems to want to do is HELP CHANGE THE SITE. It would relieve alot of tension if we all refrained from blurting in a post whenever we feel like. If we have nothing constructive to say on that certain post, then don't post a Fucking thing. that's what the run your mouth section and chit chat were designed for. Why should Jim and Nick be the ones stuck with babysitting everyone on here. Maybe we should try policing ourselves a little. And I mean you police yourself not each other. Ands like I said before, I'm just as guilty as the next guy.
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Amen Weshole, amen.
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Flowcus wrote:
Oh and nick... who is the asshole that flames everyone on the boards for bench racing? Or flames them for stating what a part or a turbo kit or nitrous can do for their car. Who is the asshole that tells them to do it... when in fact they were simply stating that nitrous can get them around this time, or a turbo kit can get them around this certain horsepower. Who is the asshole that acts like he knows everything about every car in the world and makes fun of people or flames them for even trying to say something about a car.Please if you could point this out to me. The only flame war i recall getting into was over the AFC vs Chip use. When in fact the guy arguing the AFC was not the right way to go had never in fact used one. I am not saying anyone will be affected by me leaving. But if all of us who have been in this indusrty just got fed up and stepped out then this would be 100% full of BS and HS pissing matches. SOme of us like to grow out of that and mature a little and try provide positive information and help the indusrty grow. Where as most like to come on here and make a joke of it, rip on someone, rip on somebody's car. All in all it reminds me of the elementary school days of "my dad can beat up your dad". Seriously what good is people flaming each other, everyone telling everyone else "your slow", "your car sucks", having polls of "biggest pussy of the year", "biggest ricer of the year" how mature is this board and how is it providing positive influence to anyone to make a step fwd?
EVERYONE needs to grow up!
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It gives us something to talk about instaed of sittin here and waiting for another person to come on and post a problem or question only regarding their car or a car they know of....and i just dont get why Drag comes on and calls me a fag for no fuckin reason
2003 Mitsubishi Evolution 8
2011 Ford F150 Ecoboost
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YellowEvo wrote:
It gives us something to talk about instaed of sittin here and waiting for another person to come on and post a problem or question only regarding their car or a car they know of....and i just dont get why Drag comes on and calls me a fag for no fuckin reasonWhy did you and Ethan sit and argue for how long and turn it into a fist fight? Can everyone not just avoid that and step back and go hey maybe i'll just drop it because this is going nowhere.
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ethan/ joe matches havent happened for a long ass time because both just stayed outa eachothers way.
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PSI2HI wrote:
Why did you and Ethan sit and argue for how long and turn it into a fist fight? Can everyone not just avoid that and step back and go hey maybe i'll just drop it because this is going nowhere.Amen. And if you can't just drop it, then take it from this forum and bring up a new one in the run your mouth section. All this bickering back and forth will not solve a fucking thing. I'm just asking a favor to get this resolved. Don't get mad at me please.
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STiSchucky wrote:
ethan/ joe matches havent happened for a long ass time because both just stayed outa eachothers way.
No, Joe was enough of a stand up guy to approach me in a different way than before, and the stuff between me and him is done. I've got nothin for him but respect. -
2wheeler wrote:
No, Joe was enough of a stand up guy to approach me in a different way than before, and the stuff between me and him is done. I've got nothin for him but respect.Well its nice to see some aree seeing the light and keeping the shit out of the public's view. Now Ethan can you tell the rest how to accomplish this?
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Alright I'm going to put my two cents in on this...
I run a board myself, it used to get out of control. Now we're nazi's when it comes to stupid shit and it has been a pretty well run board for the last year and a half. Minot is dramaville and we'll have a thread or two pop up every couple months, but nothing major.
This board has a lot of BS posts involved, and I have been involved with a few, but I try to stay out of them. Look @ my post #s. There is never anything to reply to, and if I can lend a helping hand then I will. I've been in the "import scene" for 5 years now and what I remember when I was coming up to what it is now is two totally different things.
I am sick of reading about "if my car had this it would run this" and "you're slow" and "you suck" etc. The key to having a good board is having good content. When every post gets whored out your content diminishes and in return the board takes a shit.
Jim i'd be more than willing to help you clean this up if you're interested in the help. Just let me know.
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PSI2HI wrote:
Well its nice to see some aree seeing the light and keeping the shit out of the public's view. Now Ethan can you tell the rest how to accomplish this?
Good question, but I don't think I have the answer. How about comparing Fargo the way it is now(tension between shops, drama, ego, etc) to how it could be(no grudges, everyone is cool with everyone, we could ALL get together and have a good time). God damn, why can't the second one be a reality? EVERYONE misses out on so much good shit because they don't like someone, or some group of guys. So they won't hang out with them. Everything car related would be so much more fun. Car shows, dyno sessions, days at the strip, all of it. I know this won't happen, but just sit there in front of your computer for a minute, that it did. Do you like it? If you do, act on it. However you want to.It was Joe's choice to say what he said to me. No one forced him. But it CHANGED shit for the better. That's all it took.
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YellowEvo wrote:
i got sick of fighting with someone on here, i can honestly say i dont have a grudge for anyone on the board, ya i give nova shit but he does it back cause we both know we just having fun...I think that what Nicks getting at is that you guys seem to go at it on every topic you post on along with kirk and a few others. I've done it too. maybe not to the extent of some others but I'm guilty as well. Sometimes it is better to bite your tounges or should i say fingers and try to keep some topics "on topic". I'm not picking on you or singling you out. You just happen to be responding in a positive way and that's how positive things come about.
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I post on all the dumb topics because i'm not the best with the whole knowing everything about a car...I love them, i love driving them but i dont know jack shit about them... so that's why i kinda stay my nose out of the Tech forums
2003 Mitsubishi Evolution 8
2011 Ford F150 Ecoboost -
I'll ditto everything that GSR just said there. I too help run the Northern Animation forum that is based out of Minot, and I have to say, we keep that fucker as clean as we can. It used to be terrible,, but most people on there got the point that it started to suck, and cleaned themselves up.
This is really funny, someone just started talking to me on Messenger and it went exactly like this:
him: what's up
me: just reading this gay ass post on fargostreet that's already 9 pages long, u?
him: which post on fargostreet, you'll have to specify, well, because they're all pretty gay
me: LOL exactly the point of this thread!
me: the one started by Drag about how this place sucks.So there are people that can't stand the way this forum is. I'm also one of the people that come on here that would like to see something good happen. There is WAAAAAAAAAYYY TOO MUCH HS drama and bullshit, bickering between certain people. And honestly most of the time when I do read, I just skip out on the threads that are more than like 3 pages long, because I know they're going to be retarded. Don't get me wrong, I like to argue, and a good cock fight is great once in a while. But holy fuck, just like Tufte said, it's so out of control that the moderators can't even keep up with it. I also don't think that what Tufte says and does on this forum has anything to do with him representing his business. Yes he does get on people's cases about buying ricer shit, but I'm just like him in that respect, and would like to see people do PERFORMANCE mods, instead of RICE. There's already plenty of rice here, so why not get some more performance going?
I think a lot of the problems on this forum could easily be solved by some good moderators that aren't biased in any way towards anyone. I would gladly help out moderating if you need some help Jim. I don't hardly know anyone on this board and that's because I make it a point NOT to meet any of them, and that's based on what and how they post shit on here. If you're going to be a retard on here, then you're more than likely a retard in person, and I don't want to be involved with you!
I bet that if there were some GOOD car clubs, and some good constructive competition, the scene would be what it really should be. I'm one of the people that say car clubs are gay and dead these days, and that's because they got so fucking stupid!! LIke 3-5 years ago when I got into the scene in Minot, of all places, it was so fucking good. Everone had a cool car and not just a fart can and a gigantic wing w/ neon covering their car. It was great, we had BBQs, our own track day at the track, and had shitloads of representation at shows. Now days there is none of this. It honestly wouldn't take that much to clean up the car scene around here, and that goes for this forum too. I honestly think that both the whole scene and this forum are going to either make or break each other.
Oh yeah another thing I wanted to say was, people should fucking proof read their posts! USE PUNCTUATION AND PROPER SPELLING. A lot of forums will delete your posts if it's not clear and easy to understand. That does help to clean shit up, I guarantee it. Well that's all I have for now, take it or leave it. Unbelievable how well this is on topic!
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