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    thrash
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    #30

    weshole;212648 wrote:
    A 4.3 V8 is still a helluva lot more displacement than a 1.6L 4cyl. Oh, and there is plenty of "American" market V8's with 4.3L or less.... Acura has a 4.3 Lexus has a 4.0, Lincoln LS has a 3.9 V8.

    Acura and Lexus aren't US makes, they're US brands of foreign engineering. I was not familiar with the Lincoln 3.9 (or the Olds 4.0) so I stand corrected.

    The point was that Ferrari engines make excellent and often superior power using much lower displacement than US engined counterparts, even with natural aspiration. That's how ferrari likes to do things and it's part of what makes a Ferrari drive and sound like a Ferrari instead of a Chevelle. (That and Ferrari V8s are flat-plane cranks unlike US V8s)

    Anyway, the original contention in the thread is trollbait and everyone knows it. Stop playing along 🙂

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      DaveH
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      Displacement isn't squat without a good cylinder head and cam. Ferrari, etc use smaller cube motors because they do their homework on the heads and cams (or pay someone to do their homework). 😛

      DaveH
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        SPANISH-RICE
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        ^ agreed. they may have v8 and v10 but they are generally very small displacement.

        and to keep it stirring 97 cubic inches with hot nasty v-attack pwns all n00bs with v8s BTW

        here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
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          Parker
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          #33

          zbrown;212619 wrote:
          Spray is for fags..........;)

          boost it and be done with it 🙂
          ok... when your done with your lil 4.8 build.... lets line them up.... yours boosted and mine on spray.... we'll see how it goes....

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            XJHEAD
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            KA-T_240;212543 wrote:
            turbo!!!!!!!

            but a nice big turbo V8 owns all

            Or TWIN turbo V-8

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              dubbsy
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              XJHEAD;212717 wrote:
              Or TWIN turbo V-8

              that'll still run mid 10s. 🙂

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                Parker
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                grip

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                  kzrider
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                  #37

                  you are all acting like a bunch of punk ass kids! Hey wana race cause my car is fast!

                  American small cube V8- A.K.A. lil northstar 4.0L

                  This can be argued all day long. Wow, Shep's talon is faster than that guys 572 vega. Or Force's funny car is faster than that honda. Anything can be made fast with $$$$ and technology.

                  In my mind displacement ftw. U can boost ur honda, I can do the same with a V8. Its a very simple concept.

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                    XJHEAD
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                    :icon_scratch:> dubbsy;212723 wrote:

                    that'll still run mid 10s. 🙂

                    Nope, last I checked was still low 11's

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                      GoldyHatchPSI
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                      kzrider;212739 wrote:
                      you are all acting like a bunch of punk ass kids! Hey wana race cause my car is fast!

                      American small cube V8- A.K.A. lil northstar 4.0L

                      This can be argued all day long. Wow, Shep's talon is faster than that guys 572 vega. Or Force's funny car is faster than that honda. Anything can be made fast with $$$$ and technology.

                      In my mind displacement ftw. U can boost ur honda, I can do the same with a V8. Its a very simple concept.

                      Yeah but you're comparing oranges to apples. It's not even fair in the first place.

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                        Colin
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                        MisterCMK;212493 wrote:
                        There is no replacement for displacement.

                        Discuss.

                        I agree so much, that I am doing the "more cylinders" mod.

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                            Parker
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                            GoldyHatchPSI;212750 wrote:
                            Yeah but you're comparing oranges to apples. It's not even fair in the first place.
                            thats why were arguing displacement... if you want to compare apples to oranges..... go to a grocery store....

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                              capitlj
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                              The more cubic inches your engine has the more potential it has to build power. Its simple physics, you cant cram as much air and fuel into a 1.6 liter container as you can into a 5.7 liter one. No matter how much compressed air (read forced induction) you put in it won't balance. Sure a turbo 1.6 might make more power than a stock 350, this is where the technology comes in, due to the design of the heads, the cam profiles, flow rates of both the intake and exhaust etc. All of that factors in but if you make the 350 as efficient as the 1.6 it will make far and away more power. I would think that would be obvious to anyone when you look at what is on a race track, just about anywhere, and the fastest cars are using engine technology that has its roots in the 1950's, possibly even farther back. You can call out all the things that have changed with engines in the last five decades, but look at what has not changed.

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                                ichibankilla
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                                Colin;212778 wrote:
                                I agree so much, that I am doing the "more cylinders" mod.

                                Wasn't there a video posted quite some time ago of some dumb ass saying he was going to do that to his evo and go 300 mph or something like that?

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                                  zbrown
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                                  Parker;212716 wrote:
                                  ok... when your done with your lil 4.8 build.... lets line them up.... yours boosted and mine on spray.... we'll see how it goes....

                                  fully forged vs stock longblock.......... that is apples to oranges if anything

                                  lol whats the point....... even just 600 wheel in these cars with an auto is a solid 9 second car

                                  the smaller cube LSx's have done that on stock long blocks for sustained periods with out popping

                                  cant we just be friends now?? how about if i change my avatar to something more fitting?? 😉

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                                    Colin
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                                    ichibankilla;212841 wrote:
                                    Wasn't there a video posted quite some time ago of some dumb ass saying he was going to do that to his evo and go 300 mph or something like that?

                                    yep, some walmart employee talking about his non-existent evo. Thats why I think my swap is funny. "I'm gonna add 2 cylinders" lol

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                                      inspector01
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                                      Im pretty sure that everyone knows that all things equal, a larger displacement can make more power......but i really think only the ppl who have something to back it up against the imports should be arguing how much better their V8s are. Just like Imports shouldn't be arguing how much better they are unless they can hold there own.....Just my opinion on the matter.

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                                        torbs
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                                        weshole;212621 wrote:
                                        Tell that to a Ferarri who only uses V8's and V12's. Or Bugatti, Bently, etc. that uses big engines WITH turbos.

                                        Hmmm...if I'm not mistaking there's a certain 3.0L I-6 that can put out more power in stock longblock form than all of those cars make...ask Dave, I'm sure he can assist you with what the engine code is.

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                                          kylush
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                                          Pretty sure daves supra doesn't have a stock longblock?..... i honestly don't know, but i highly doubt it

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