Obama wants to disarm
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DelSlow;235799 wrote:
i dont see jawa's as enemies. Sand people on the other hand...LOL -- nice
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BlueSRT0483;235798 wrote:
So we are trying to take a country that hated us, and turn them into an Ally. So what was once a threat is now a friend. And you don't care of this because....?So if they are our friend why are our service men dying over there everyday? Because there are people there that don't want us to help them. They aren't our ally and this isn't our war anymore. We went the to disarm a dangerous dictator and now it's time to be done. I'm totally for nuclear disarming but the US isn't the fucking Peace Corps, It's time to go home.
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Here's some historical perspective on the Marshall Plan -- the policy whereby the USA rebuilt Europe after ruining its shit from Whitecastle to the Nile.
By the time the plan had come to completion, the economy of every participant state, with the exception of Germany, had grown well past pre-war levels. Over the next two decades, many regions of Western Europe would enjoy unprecedented growth and prosperity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
And an example of the USA getting it wrong:
George Crile, author of Charlie Wilson's War, the book on which the film is based, wrote that the mujahideen's victory in Afghanistan ultimately opened a power vacuum for bin Laden: "By the end of 1993, in Afghanistan itself there were no roads, no schools, just a destroyed country -- and the United States was washing its hands of any responsibility. It was in this vacuum that the Taliban and Osama bin Laden would emerge as the dominant players. It is ironic that a man who had almost nothing to do with the victory over the Red Army, Osama bin Laden, would come to personify the power of the jihad."[
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"The part that I'll take to my grave with guilt is that . . . I didn't stay the course and stay there and push and drive the other members of Congress nuts pushing for a mini-Marshall Plan," he said. "And I let myself be frustrated and discouraged by the fact that (the Afghan) leadership was so fragmented that we were unable to do the things we needed to do, like clear the mines, like furnish them millions of tons of fertilizer to be able to replant the crops."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Wilson%27s_War
Fantastic movie, btw.
I'm not a real fan of wars in general. You don't see me over there fighting.
But we're there on the ground, and we've got the first opportunity in a long time to get a democratic non-theistic ally in the arab world. We can walk out and let the jackholes waltz back into power, like in Afghanistan.
Or, we can make sure that when we draw down, all of those kids that run out into the streets cheering everytime US soldiers drive through (and they do, don't let anyone tell you otherwise) will have a government worth living under.
When you stomp somebody, you should clean up the mess. That way you don't have to stomp them again in a few years.
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thrash;235835 wrote:
Here's some historical perspective on the Marshall Plan -- the policy whereby the USA rebuilt Europe after ruining its shit from Whitecastle to the Nile.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
And an example of the USA getting it wrong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Wilson%27s_War
Fantastic movie, btw.
I'm not a real fan of wars in general. You don't see me over there fighting.
But we're there on the ground, and we've got the first opportunity in a long time to get a democratic non-theistic ally in the arab world. We can walk out and let the jackholes waltz back into power, like in Afghanistan.
Or, we can make sure that when we draw down, all of those kids that run out into the streets cheering everytime US soldiers drive through (and they do, don't let anyone tell you otherwise) will have a government worth living under.
When you stomp somebody, you should clean up the mess. That way you don't have to stomp them again in a few years.
Very good reading...
Nice post...
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So do all of the terrorist nations and groups. How would Obama react to todays attack on the Embassy in Yemen? "oh, thats OK, just try not to do it again."
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I don't think it matters if he wins or not. Someones gonna kill him fo sho,, theres a bazillion crazy rednecks in the US
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GhettoFabulousCRX;236269 wrote:
I don't think it matters if he wins or not. Someones gonna kill him fo sho,, theres a bazillion crazy rednecks in the USOr we can elect McCain and noone will have to kill him, he'll die of old age. Then we'll have a women president and there's more than enough radical sexists to take care of her..... just the other side of the story.
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thrash;236313 wrote:
everyone that would kill Palin over being a woman will instead be thinking about how hot she is shooting caribou. Caribou barbie FTW!Who are you and what did you do with the real thrash? This is 2 times in one day that I have agreed with your posts. :lol:
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thrash;236313 wrote:
everyone that would kill Palin over being a woman will instead be thinking about how hot she is shooting caribou. Caribou barbie FTW!Doubt it there's enough people like this guy that couldn't deal with a women president.....
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