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Obama will raise small biz taxes?

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    Parker;242580 wrote:
    omg sorry... corporation... i guess you just cant figure it out....

    Omg, I guess you just can't figure out how to spell those darn words correctly can you?

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      Parker;242582 wrote:
      they sell cans....

      You gave it away

      FASTER THAN DUBBSY

      > thrash;315544 wrote:
      > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
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      > Ford is back :)

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        reshalghoul;242584 wrote:
        Omg, I guess you just can't figure out how to spell those darn words correctly can you?
        nope.... spelling dont grow no corne now duz it?

        maybe i should read too my corn... maybe thats what they are missing... spelling bee?

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          lol, I wouldn't sell him any corn if I were you.

          Spelling does grow sugar beets though.

          FASTER THAN DUBBSY

          > thrash;315544 wrote:
          > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
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          > Ford is back :)

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            Corn is worthless anyway.

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              Looks like the farm is pretty healthy after all.

              http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_dc7z4j

              What's the net on 1.5M?

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                  reshalghoul;242595 wrote:
                  Looks like the farm is pretty healthy after all.

                  http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_dc7z4j

                  What's the net on 1.5M?
                  serious comment?
                  top 8%... like i said...

                  can you find the seed sales?

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                    lol

                    FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                    > thrash;315544 wrote:
                    > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
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                    > Ford is back :)

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                      Wow he really doesn't get it does he?

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                        I'm actually glad that reshalghoul is on this site. I can take comfort in knowing that I'm not the most ignorant sumbitch in the world.

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                          Just saw a clip on the news of a business owner e-mailing his story..

                          His biz takes in over $1million in revenue but nets around $75k...

                          Which under Obamas plan will put 10 of his employees out of work


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                            let's see....Million in revenue....75k after taxes & expenses....he has about 680k of write offs (before taxes obviously).....so his tax bracket will be under 250k....and if I'm reading what you say correctly, he should be money ahead w/ Obama's plan?

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                              Thats the thing, i havent found anywhere (not looking all that hard, but looking none the less) that states what this 250k really is. Is it gross, net, receipts, total revenue, total revenue-wages, etc. If you can find that i bet youll find the bull in the china shop. For instance, any buisiness that employs close to 10 people should be making around $1mil in gains. Especially farms, most of the farms around here are split between 2-4 people as LLCs, and each makes 2-4million in total revenue. Now in order to clear taxes and such they go buy NEW stuff, not used and use up 3.5million of that keeping around 500k for wages. Now depending on what obamas 250k really encompasses it could completely destroy large "small" buisinesses.
                              Also just a FYI if you think only a handful of small businesses make over 250k per year, your dreaming. I urge you to look at this, it is the limit of receipts in $millions to classify yourself as a small business. as you can see, most categories you can make $750,000 --$25 MILLION in receipts or have 1000-1500 employees and still qualify. Gosh, that sounds alot like almost everybody that works around here's company that will get a tax increase dont it.
                              scroll down to the table, about 1/8th the way.
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                                Exactly no one knows...from what this guy was saying is that he'll be taxed on the 1 million or whatever...doesn't sound right but who knows


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                                  I still havent decided who to vote for yet, so dont take this the wrong way. I am an independent and havent sided with anyone yet.

                                  someone has to pay for all the spending George W Bush did. He gave us a $500 billion + defecit. Are economy sucks? We haven't invested in our infastructure in the past 20 years. We are the only developed nation with out universal health care. We need to invest more money in Energy Independence. I dont know if this is the answer but Something has to be done.

                                  Obama said:
                                  "Instead of having all of us pay our fair share, we've got over $1 trillion worth of loopholes in the corporate tax code," he said. "This isn't the invisible hand of the market at work. It's the successful work of special interests."

                                  But its also hard for me to support McCain when He doesnt support increasing the GI Bill for veterans. He felt that by giving us more money then we would leave the military. So What, He doesnt own us. Maybe we should have a draft. It might get some people off of the computer and forums to see what the real world is like. Maybe some of the die hard liberals would see whats really up?

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                                    02AccordEXV6;242769 wrote:
                                    Exactly no one knows...from what this guy was saying is that he'll be taxed on the 1 million or whatever...doesn't sound right but who knows

                                    From his webpage...here is what I can find about the subject...some is vague, and I am looking for more info...but I thought I'd get started with what I could:

                                    <u>Eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses, cut corporate taxes for firms that invest and create
                                    jobs in the United States, and provide tax credits to reduce the cost of healthcare and to reward
                                    investments in innovation.
                                    </u>

                                    II. TAX CUTS TO ENHANCE COMPETITIVENESS AND HELP CREATE JOBS
                                    Barack Obama’s tax plan will help small businesses grow and will encourage job creation in America. He will
                                    directly cut taxes for small business and for firms that invest and create jobs in the United States, will relieve
                                    healthcare costs for all firms and will reward investments in innovation. Barack Obama pro-business tax
                                    policies include:
                                    o Eliminating Capital Gains Taxes for Entrepreneurs and Investors in Small Business. Barack Obama
                                    understands that small businesses are the engines of our economy, and he will eliminate all capital gains
                                    taxes on investments in small and start up firms.
                                    o Cutting Corporate Tax Rates for Firms that Create Jobs in America. Barack Obama will repeal tax
                                    breaks and loopholes that reward corporations that retain their earnings overseas, and will use those savings
                                    to lower corporate tax rates for companies that expand or start operations in the United States.
                                    Printed in House

                                    <u>o Offering a Small Business Healthcare Tax Credit: To help small businesses compete in the global
                                    economy while still providing quality health insurance, Barack Obama will offer a new refundable 50
                                    percent health tax credit on employee premiums paid by employers. His comprehensive healthcare plan will
                                    relieve health costs for all firms by bringing down national healthcare costs by $2,500 per family, annually.
                                    </u>
                                    o Making the R&D Tax Credit Permanent. Barack Obama will make the Research and Development tax
                                    credit permanent so that firms can rely on it when making decisions to invest in domestic R&D over multiyear
                                    timeframes.

                                    o Repealing a portion of the Bush tax cuts for families over $250,000 while continuing to leave their tax
                                    rates at or below where they were in the 1990s:
                                    <u>o Ordinary Income: The top two income tax brackets would return to their 1990’s levels of 36% and
                                    39.6%. All other tax brackets would remain as they are today. Obama would also restore the 1990’s
                                    levels for the personal exemption and itemized deduction phaseouts (known as PEP and Pease).
                                    Obama would work with the Treasury Department to adjust the thresholds of these rates slightly to
                                    ensure that no married couple making less than $250,000 (or single making less than $200,000) was
                                    affected by these changes.
                                    </u>
                                    o Capital Gains: Families with incomes below $250,000 will continue to pay the capital gains rates
                                    that they pay today. For those in the top two income tax brackets – likewise adjusted to affect only
                                    families over $250,000 – Obama will create a new top capital gains rate of 20 percent. Obama’s 20%
                                    rate is equal is the lowest rate that existed in the 1990s and the rate that President Bush proposed in
                                    2001. <u>It is almost a third lower than the rate that President Reagan signed into law in 1986</u>
                                    o Dividends: The top dividends rate for people making over $250,000 would be set at 20 percent.
                                    Dividends will not return to being taxed at ordinary income tax rates. Obama’s 20 percent rate on
                                    dividends will be 39 percent lower than the rate President Bush proposed in 2001, and would be
                                    lower than all but 5 of the last 92 years we have been taxing dividends.viii
                                    <u>o Estate Tax: The estate tax would be effectively repealed for 99.7 percent of estates. For the
                                    remaining 0.3% of estates over $7 million per couple, Obama will retain a rate of 45%. This policy
                                    would cut the number of estates covered by the tax by 84 percent relative to 2000.ix
                                    </u>
                                    o Average Tax Rates Below the 1990s: Overall, the top 1 percent of households – people with an
                                    average income of $1.6 million per year – would see their average federal income and payroll tax
                                    rate increase from 21 percent today to 24 percent, less than the 25 percent these households would
                                    have paid under the tax laws of the late 1990s.

                                    http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/taxes/Factsheet_Tax_Plan_FINAL.pdf

                                    So, from what I am reading, it is personal income tax that he is concerning himself with at this point. It also seems that this is after deductions and so forth.

                                    What I'd LOVE to see one of the two candidates do is get rid of the incentives for companies to ship jobs overseas...

                                    http://www.rd.com/content/printContent.do?contentId=101737&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=500&width=790&modal=true

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                                      Afsil80;242676 wrote:
                                      I'm actually glad that reshalghoul is on this site. I can take comfort in knowing that I'm not the most ignorant sumbitch in the world.
                                      lol... sumbitch....

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