If Obama wins the election
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tjamz;244603 wrote:
Palin -- Abused her powers as governor, redistributes the wealth of the oil revenue within her own state.you gotta stay off those left wing wacko sites Chuck.
What became of the charges that the lefties in Alaska brought against Palin? Oh yeah, they were dropped.
The law in Alaska is that the people own the oil, the $1200 check is for royalties collected from oil companies. It's been the norm in Alaska for years to get royalty checks (well before Palin became governor). There is a huge difference between that and collecting money from one of your citizens and giving it to another (redistributing the wealth).
Thanks for playing tho.
DaveH
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OK, heres the deal. Since your SOOOO interested in why none of us are stupid liberals that are sucking obamas cock, a few reasons.
Taxes, it makes a difference, but in reality theres FAR more important things, i can pay higher taxes for a few years until they are dropped in the next admin
Character, more important than taxes. The person i see is someone who is doing whatever it takes to say what you want to hear. In fact, i dont like obama, he obviously doesnt live the life hes preaching, as his own family live in slums and complete 3rd world poverty while he lives the high life and doesnt do shit to help them. Theres way more stuff to this but im tired so, you get the point.
Freinds and associations, really, some say you judge a man by the company he keeps. He has some fucked up freinds, ayers, wright and his black liberation theology/marxist church, rezco, i could go on. At times, to make a very difficult descision, you have to look to your god/beleifs/wife/etc. and do what you think is right. Those very things on his side scare me.
Life- this is FAR more important than any of the above. I cant beleive how pro-abortion this guy is. Favoring partial birth abortions, denying basic rights and benefits to live born childred of failed abortions, he doesnt even have to balls or personal fortitude to decide for himself when life starts. "Its above my pay grade". Now im not a pro-life nutjob, nor am i pro-abortion. I think it is something that is needed in the most extreme consequences etc. McCain at least has a solid pro-life stance, and doesnt hide it or try to dodge it. "life begins at conception, final answer" and sticks with it. I have much more respect for him as such.
Supreme Court Judges-- More important than ANY OTHER THING IN THE WORLD TO A TRUE AMERICAN. In fact, it can shape every one of the above listed for many years.
Obama doesnt like the constitution. He said it limits the power of the courts to redristribute wealth, and doesnt reflect modern society. He also favors VERY liberal judges, ones that could dramatically change the way the constitution is interpreted. The constitution is more than a piece of paper, it is a set morals, and theologies that is used to support the rights of man and limitations of government. It is not meant to be changed on a whim by judges who see fit as Obama intends. It is to be interpreted in its original meaning and applied to the circumstance. Obama has stated that a justice that strictly interprets it as such is not going to get his pick. He wants justices that "feel" and "care", whom will always choose the weak over the strong even if it contradicts the document. He wants the supreme court to have the power to redristribute wealth, and on and on.Now, honestly i could say so much more than this, but it comes down to the fact you have to look past the rhetoric and see the person inside. I honestly think that barack is going to do drastically worse things than he is saying. When hes not giving a scripted speech his true intentions are far more pronounced. The fact is hes hiding a shitload of stuff on him and his background, we really dont know who he is and its only 3 days till the election.
McCain has a very solid background, doesnt change his views. Hes a stubborn old guy who has his beleifs, which are more appropriate for me, and isnt going to change them for political expediency. Thats a very simple rundown as to why i am voting for mccain. Unlike you chuck, i have looked at the more important things that the next president is going to do, like appoint supreme court justices for life that could change the meaning of america and the constiturion for generations, Instead of a stupid tax plan. Really no one should give a fuck about taxes compared to their core beleifs as i listed above. Get a fucking clue
Gary
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Parker;244691 wrote:
so were do you live that is so damn thuggin?I live in Dublin, and if you actually read what I wrote, I never said it was thuggin or anything of the sort. I simply said that where I live, white kids are the one who do all the crime....
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Grr;244722 wrote:
OK, heres the deal. Since your SOOOO interested in why none of us are stupid liberals that are sucking obamas cock, a few reasons.Taxes, it makes a difference, but in reality theres FAR more important things, i can pay higher taxes for a few years until they are dropped in the next admin
Character, more important than taxes. <snip>
Freinds and associations, really, <snip>
Life- this is FAR more important <snip>
Supreme Court Judges-- More important than ANY OTHER THING IN THE WORLD TO A TRUE AMERICAN. <snip>
Gary
All excellent points sir.
DaveH
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Imagine that, i post a response that is completely correct and logical and no one responds. Ive noticed that happens quite a bit on alot of forums. stupid liberals cant seem to grasp the real concept and move on to a diff thread so they dont have to accept the truth i post. dumb fuckers
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Gary for Pres!
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Sorry gary, didn't see your post til now or I would have responded though it didn't address the immediate question I asked. I certainly respect and understand your views, even if I debate them to the point of pissing you off.
I'm posting this from my phone as I am away from my computer.... But here is the reason (briefly) that I post what I do: I love the debate, I love to be informed and am not above admitting I'm wrong in the process. I may not even agree with everything I've posted. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be heard (opposing views.... Isn't that what this country is all about? Being able to have an opposing view?)
If nothing else comes from the debates we've had, I hope that some people on here who were not informed became informed.
Long story short, I don't think that either candidate is out to intentionally harm the country. There will be things that fundamentally we will all disagree on (no matter who wins) but I honestly think that both are going to do what they feel is best for our country.
I know I've pissed off a few on here with my opinions/comments, at the end of the day I'm still the same guy and I hope that even though we disagree politically we can agree to disagree and go on with our friendships.
Btw, if you guys read some of the hints dropped by a number of people on here who know me well you will see that I'm far more conservative than a lot give me credit for.
Give me a reagan-republican-candidate and you'll get another vote for conservatism.
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Grr;244953 wrote:
Imagine that, i post a response that is completely correct and logical and no one responds. Ive noticed that happens quite a bit on alot of forums. stupid liberals cant seem to grasp the real concept and move on to a diff thread so they dont have to accept the truth i post. dumb fuckersDon't worry Gary, as "liberal" as I am, or am not(generally agree with liberals more than conservatives, ie my old fashioned father, etc), I know how ya feel. Mitch and I had a talk about it the other day...not saying we have the most "true" or informative posts, but thats probably why we both post kind of sparingly, especially in subjects like this. He has been more active, however. Either way, you are not alone brotha!
And personally, I don't believe I will be casting a vote for your boy Obama
I'm ultimately worried about the supermajority anyway...
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