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Who would you vote for, GW Bush or Obama

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  • Afsil80A Offline
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    Afsil80
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    Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Colombia are all probably celebrating in the streets at this point.

    -Peter

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    • RidinRailsR Offline
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      fallguy;245293 wrote:
      uhh...no terror attacks on US soil since 911, positive growth in the US economy even though he took over his presidency with a start of a recession and biggest terror attack on US soil, took offense to terrorist instead of being on defense, defeated Saddam Hussein and backed up what we say.

      We'll see how Obama handles Iran and North Korea.....and if he can maintain a terror free USA.

      There were no terrorist attacks on US soil before 911 either...so did clinton prevent terrorist attacks too? lol

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      • Afsil80A Offline
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        Uh, 1993 World Trade Center bombing?

        Damn you're an idiot.

        -Peter

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          fallguy;245293 wrote:
          uhh...no terror attacks on US soil since 911, positive growth in the US economy even though he took over his presidency with a start of a recession and biggest terror attack on US soil, took offense to terrorist instead of being on defense, defeated Saddam Hussein and backed up what we say.

          We'll see how Obama handles Iran and North Korea.....and if he can maintain a terror free USA.

          Only thing I have to say to this is, we defetead saddam (soldiers, marines). not bush. He really didnt defeat shit, he just sent us there. the military and generals and all the grunts did the work. OK I am done talking.

          And yes I did vote for McCain.

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          • 24valvenotak2 Offline
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            under president bush the authorization to torture prisoners was granted as well as constitution burning ideas like homeland security. not to mention the unethical no-bid contract awarding to halliberton for military projects, many of which were complete failures.

            bush administration victories, no doubt.

            Getcher green hat, we are goin fishin.

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            > I dont know shit about building cars.

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            • GarageAlchemistG Offline
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              over the last 25 years gold hasn't held a candle to silver. With inflation figured in, gold has actually dropped in value over the last quarter century.

              97 GTi, 03 KJ

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                GarageAlchemist;245400 wrote:
                over the last 25 years gold hasn't held a candle to silver. With inflation figured in, gold has actually dropped in value over the last quarter century.

                I couldn't find a 25 year chart of each so I had to piece on together for each. All charts for each given commodity are from the same site....though I couldn't find a single site that had both of them listed together...it should be damn close though.

                http://goldprice.org/30-year-gold-price-history.html

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                http://www.silverinstitute.org/19811990.php
                http://www.silverinstitute.org/19901999.php
                http://www.silverinstitute.org/2000pres.php

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                Looks to me like silver bottomed out at about $4/oz and Gold at about $275/oz....Silver rose to ~$12 whereas gold briefly topped $1000.

                So, Silver rose 300% and gold rose 363%

                If you have a better source than me Heath, please post it. This is not a witch hunt...however I do like as factual of info as I can get.

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                  Afsil80;245329 wrote:
                  Uh, 1993 World Trade Center bombing?

                  Damn you're an idiot.

                  I completely missed John saying that or I would have brought it up....however under clinton there was one failed attempt and no further attempts until Bush took office....then there was one successful event and then no further attempts...until Obama takes office....until whoever else takes office. So basically Clinton was as successful as Bush at preventing future attempts.

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                    I thougth 9/11 was put on my GW?

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                    • DaveHD Offline
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                      tjamz;245405 wrote:
                      until Bush took office....then there was one successful event and then no further attempts....

                      There were no further attempts? Or there were no further successful attempts?

                      DaveH
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                        RidinRails;245323 wrote:
                        There were no terrorist attacks on US soil before 911 either...so did clinton prevent terrorist attacks too? lol

                        World Trade Center Bombings and also Oklahoma City bombing from what I recall.

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                          True...forgot about that one, though I find it hard to believe we will go to war with ourselves because some nutjobs from here decided to harm their own country by blowing up a building. Hard to pin that one on Al Qaeda.

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                            What about the other attacks against Clinton he really did nothing about?

                            1998 Attacks on embassies in Kenya and Tanzania as well as the 2000 attack on the USS Cole....

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                              tjamz;245451 wrote:
                              True...forgot about that one, though I find it hard to believe we will go to war with ourselves because some nutjobs from here decided to harm their own country by blowing up a building. Hard to pin that one on Al Qaeda.

                              The point is that we are on offense now. There are many planned attacks and they aren't all just from Al Qaeda. Being more aware that there are people that want to end what we have and having a plan to stop it before it happens. We have declared "war" on terror..vs just treating it like a police action.

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                              • ParkerP Offline
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                                FG2;245171 wrote:
                                I would write in Ron Paul.....again.
                                dude.. give it up...

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                                > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                                > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                                > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                                > You are right Parker.

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                                  fallguy;245487 wrote:
                                  The point is that we are on offense now. There are many planned attacks and they aren't all just from Al Qaeda. Being more aware that there are people that want to end what we have and having a plan to stop it before it happens. We have declared "war" on terror..vs just treating it like a police action.

                                  Yay! now we're the terrorists! hey, wait....

                                  97 GTi, 03 KJ

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                                    ^^really?

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                                    • Afsil80A Offline
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                                      GarageAlchemist;245503 wrote:
                                      Yay! now we're the terrorists! hey, wait....

                                      Well, think of it this way.

                                      Do you want us to go find them? Or just have them fly to our doorstep AGAIN and potentially kill another couple thousand of Americans.

                                      Also, nobody mentioned the attack on the Khobar Towers.

                                      -Peter

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