Friday History Lesson
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HandoEX;246551 wrote:
Exactly, don't voice your opinion! This isn't a democracy or anything.Well technically it still is, it won't be in about 6 months
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Well, hopefully not.
I hope you are all making fun of me 4 years from now for being so alarmist.
If I'm wrong, I look like a dipshit and the world goes along fine. I eat crow, I start forecasting doom and gloom in the 2012 election, and everyone has a big laugh at my expense.
If you're wrong, it doesn't matter who looks like a dipshit because we're either slaves or dead.
If I were you, I'd make sure I had the guns, ammo, food, water, and fuel I think I'd need for a SHTF scenario. And a plan for what you're going to do when the feds come to take your guns. [Fight? Flee? Bury them?]
You don't have to tell anyone about it. Just do it silently. Nobody will make fun of you because nobody will know. And hopefully you and I will laugh about it later.
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thrash;246581 wrote:
If I were you, I'd make sure I had the guns, ammo, food, water, and fuel I think I'd need for a SHTF scenario. And a plan for what you're going to do when the feds come to take your guns. [Fight? Flee? Bury them?]I lost all my guns in a boating accident.
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not that im going to do it, but if someone were to bury a gun in dirt, what kind of receptacle would they have to place it in to keep it safe for a few years? There was a 57 plymouth buried in a cement vault for 50 years in tulsa, but when they unearthed it it was basically completely shot because water had gotten in at some point. To me, it seems cement would be tough to seal, wood eventually will rot, steel will rust. Whats left? Stainless or plastic? But I guess there is a big difference in a couple years vs. 50 years.
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integra_gsr98;246584 wrote:
I lost all my guns in a boating accident.I already have this scenario planned, but not really gonna go into it...
But the short of it, hide them till a big enough rebellion is formed, than join up and Civil War #2 is started.... Or just shoot all the bastards that come for them...
This was a very good read, the great public speaker thing was what got me questioning if it could be Hitler...
It's sad to see ignorant ppl not learning from history and most likely causing us to repeat it once again... I'm predicting Russia #2 for us... socialism till the economy completely goes to shit...
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Briggs&Stratton;246611 wrote:
not that im going to do it, but if someone were to bury a gun in dirt, what kind of receptacle would they have to place it in to keep it safe for a few years? There was a 57 plymouth buried in a cement vault for 50 years in tulsa, but when they unearthed it it was basically completely shot because water had gotten in at some point. To me, it seems cement would be tough to seal, wood eventually will rot, steel will rust. Whats left? Stainless or plastic? But I guess there is a big difference in a couple years vs. 50 years.Seal it up in a big pvc pipe, and put some of them "do not eat" things in there so your shit wont rust.
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No realy what I meant were those things that say do not eat on them. If you call them that thats your deal
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thrash;246581 wrote:
Well, hopefully not.I hope you are all making fun of me 4 years from now for being so alarmist.
If I'm wrong, I look like a dipshit and the world goes along fine. I eat crow, I start forecasting doom and gloom in the 2012 election, and everyone has a big laugh at my expense.
If you're wrong, it doesn't matter who looks like a dipshit because we're either slaves or dead.
If I were you, I'd make sure I had the guns, ammo, food, water, and fuel I think I'd need for a SHTF scenario. And a plan for what you're going to do when the feds come to take your guns. [Fight? Flee? Bury them?]
You don't have to tell anyone about it. Just do it silently. Nobody will make fun of you because nobody will know. And hopefully you and I will laugh about it later.
Sorry, still convinced he was the better candidate and rightfully won. -
Anyone who is complaining about Obama winning I think would certainly be VERY happy to, after 4 years, say "yes our gloom and doom predictions were wrong". At least that is my opinion...I just don't really see EVERYTHING being hunky dorey after his first 4.
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so since obama is a good speaker and won the election he's going to start rounding up all the jews and putting them into concentration camps, torturing them, experimenting on them, and senselessly killing them?
or is he going to come to your house and take away your gun?
Or is everyone (except the majority that voted him in of course) going to be so pissed off that they are going to start a rebellion/civil war pt. 2 based on a bunch of bullshit that the right wing talkers have said about him that has not been proven at all?
Wow, these next four years are going to suck.....
...or maybe the senseless war will be put to an end, the economy will start to swing upwards again, we'll finally have a retard out of office, and this country will start back on track towards the way it was before said retard took office...
...who knows...
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darkelvis;246668 wrote:
...or maybe the senseless war will be put to an end, the economy will start to swing upwards again, we'll finally have a retard out of office, and this country will start back on track towards the way it was before said retard took office......who knows...
Iraq has already stated they want us out by 2010 or 2012...the dems are the major reason the economy is in the shitcan right now so they'd best fix the problem they made.
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GhettoFabulousCRX;246647 wrote:
No realy what I meant were those things that say do not eat on them. If you call them that thats your dealYa they contain some silica gel stuff... u can also get some big ones, that look almost like an Altoids tin... we used to have some in our older gun safes to keep moisture down so they didnt rust...
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StangerBanger96;246672 wrote:
Iraq has already stated they want us out by 2010 or 2012...the dems are the major reason the economy is in the shitcan right now so they'd best fix the problem they made.But instead they'll give handouts to all the "needy people" and end up putting us farther in the hole than we already are... Even if u tax everyone 100% I doubt we'll get out of the hole, especially with all the bs welfare and social security programs our country has... Survival of the fittest, if ur too dumb to invest ur money or get with a company that has a retirement plan, than tough shit, I dont wanna sit around and pay for ur dumb ass, and I dont expect someone to pay for me when I get old... U cant afford it, then your kids who u raised should have enough respect to chip in... If ur too lazy to work, than u starve... If u get hurt on the job, and it's the companies fault, they pay... U get disabled, than either get a job u can do or your family should help u, or ur church or someone else... I can see taxing for roads, police, stuff like that, to help EVERYBODY... if it directly benefits one person, than the rest of us shouldnt be footing the bill...
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bubba;246683 wrote:
But instead they'll give handouts to all the "needy people" and end up putting us farther in the hole than we already are... Even if u tax everyone 100% I doubt we'll get out of the hole, especially with all the bs welfare and social security programs our country has... Survival of the fittest, if ur too dumb to invest ur money or get with a company that has a retirement plan, than tough shit, I dont wanna sit around and pay for ur dumb ass, and I dont expect someone to pay for me when I get old... U cant afford it, then your kids who u raised should have enough respect to chip in... If ur too lazy to work, than u starve... If u get hurt on the job, and it's the companies fault, they pay... U get disabled, than either get a job u can do or your family should help u, or ur church or someone else... I can see taxing for roads, police, stuff like that, to help EVERYBODY... if it directly benefits one person, than the rest of us shouldnt be footing the bill...Laffer curve, government makes 0$ at both 0% tax rate and 100% tax rate...so yeah they would be further in debt
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StangerBanger96;246672 wrote:
Iraq has already stated they want us out by 2010 or 2012...the dems are the major reason the economy is in the shitcan right now so they'd best fix the problem they made.Actually, I believe they wanted us out by december of this year (2008) IIRC. If they think they can run their own country w/o us subsidizing their every little problem I say we let them. If there is going to be handouts, I'd much rather see them to American citizens than Iraqi citizens....but I'd rather not see any unnecessary handouts.
Again, neither side is innocent at all on the economic collapse (banking)...dems w/ Fannie/Freddie and others trying to force banks into bad situations where they "have to" give loans...Repubs w/ insanely low interest rates to banks horribly over-inflating our economy.
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StangerBanger96;246672 wrote:
Iraq has already stated they want us out by 2010 or 2012...the dems are the major reason the economy is in the shitcan right now so they'd best fix the problem they made.The people that put us there stated we would be welcomed with open arms and we "accomplished our mission" years ago, if the mission has been accomplished why have we spent approx 600 billion on a war that is pointless?
And god knows the democrats are 100% at fault for the economy, it has nothing to do with wasting $600 billion, the rediciously high gas prices initially caused by the location of the war/war profiteering/price gouging by the oil companies that are in bed with the current govt, the increase in every other product due to gas prices, the unbelieveably low interest rates (as chuck mentioned).
Hey I've got an idea, why doesn't everyone keep argueing about it on the internet even though no one is going to change their mind or do anything about it.
Or the republicans could just quit their little crybaby whining and sit back and accept that this is how it's going to be for at least the next four years and there is nothing that they WILL do to change it other than talk big on the internet.
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darkelvis;246709 wrote:
The people that put us there stated we would be welcomed with open arms and we "accomplished our mission" years ago, if the mission has been accomplished why have we spent approx 600 billion on a war that is pointless?And god knows the democrats are 100% at fault for the economy, it has nothing to do with wasting $600 billion, the rediciously high gas prices initially caused by the location of the war/war profiteering/price gouging by the oil companies that are in bed with the current govt, the increase in every other product due to gas prices, the unbelieveably low interest rates (as chuck mentioned).
Hey I've got an idea, why doesn't everyone keep argueing about it on the internet even though no one is going to change their mind or do anything about it.
Or the republicans could just quit their little crybaby whining and sit back and accept that this is how it's going to be for at least the next four years and there is nothing that they WILL do to change it other than talk big on the internet.
And the democrats will do what... talk big on making changes... but will said changes actually help us get out of debt and everything else they promised... not likely
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