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NYTimes says: Drifting is Gay

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    JIDDA, Saudi Arabia — The young men start gathering around midnight, on a broad strip of highway between the desert and the sea. By 1 a.m. there are hundreds of them, standing in clusters alongside their cars, glancing around uneasily for the police.

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    Bryan Denton for The New York Times
    Sulayman al-Shulukhi, left, races his modified Subaru Impreza every weekend night and delights in describing wrecks and spinouts. Movies like “The Fast and the Furious” inspire him.

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    Bryan Denton for The New York Times
    Saudis admired cars before a night of racing in Jidda, where little public entertainment exists.
    Then, with a scream of revving engines, it begins: a yellow Corvette and a red Mitsubishi go head to head, racing down the road at terrifying speeds, just inches apart. Shouts go up from the sidelines, and another pair of racers shoot down the road, and another.

    This may be the most popular sport of Saudi youth, an obsessive, semilegal competition that dominates weekend nights here. It ranges from garden variety drag racing to “drifting,” an extremely dangerous practice in which drivers deliberately spin out and skid sideways at high speeds, sometimes killing themselves and spectators.

    For Saudi Arabia’s vast and underemployed generation of young people, these reckless night battles are a kind of collective scream of frustration, a rare outlet for exuberance in an ultraconservative country where the sexes are rigorously segregated and most public entertainment is illegal. They are, almost literally, bored out of their minds.

    “Why do they do it?” said Suhail Janoudi, a 27-year-old sales clerk who was watching the races from the roadside with a faint smile around 1:30 a.m. “Because they have nothing else to do. Because they are empty.”

    Some young people, asked why they risked their lives this way, said it was because of “tufush,” a colloquial Arabic word for boredom whose meaning is said by some to derive from the gestures made by a drowning man. Drifting, which tends to attract poorer, more marginal men, has also been an unlikely nexus between homosexuality, crime and jihadism since it emerged 30 years ago. Homoerotic desire is a constant theme in Saudi songs and poems about drifting, and accomplished drifters are said to have their pick of the prettiest boys among the spectators. Drugs sometimes also play a role. But a number of drifters have also become Islamic militants, including Youssef al-Ayyeri, the founder of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, who fought in Afghanistan and was killed by security forces in Saudi Arabia in 2003.

    “The idea behind drifting is, the economy and society don’t need you,” said Pascal Ménoret, an anthropologist who did four years of field work in Riyadh, the capital, and is now teaching at Princeton and writing a book on Saudi youth culture. “They are mostly young Bedouins who recently moved to the city, and whose lives are marked by suffering and self-destructive behavior.”

    But most racers are more like young men almost anywhere: restless, thrill-seeking and madly in love with cars.

    “It’s implanted in you when you’re a kid, and it stays with you,” said Sulayman al-Shulukhi, 29, who races every weekend night here and has adopted a 1950s greaser look: slicked-back hair, polo shirt with the collar up, jeans and white shoes.

    He proudly showed off the modifications he had made to his Subaru Impreza: a carbon fiber spoiler, an intake valve, a special ventilation system, a turbocharger. He then jumped in the car for a ride along one of the racing strips near King Road, not far from Jidda’s Red Sea coast.

    “We get up to 120 kilometers per hour on this part” (about 75 miles per hour), he said, as he accelerated down a perilously short trip of highway, “and 200 on this next one.”

    As he drove, Mr. Shulukhi narrated a tale of a recent accident on this road in which a friend’s car had caught on fire during a race, and another one in which a driver had spun out of control and died after his car burst into flames. His world is full of driving disasters and driving heroes, some of them local men. He frequently invokes the racing movies “The Fast and the Furious” and its sequels, and “Death Race.”

    Later, when the roads have emptied out a bit, it is time for some drifting. Raif Mansour al-Dammas, a skinny 21-year-old who looks much younger, gets into his beat-up white 1980s Nissan and revs the engine until white smoke pours out. Admiring shouts go up from a cluster of young men.

    Then the car leaps forward, accelerating furiously, and breaks into a sudden skid, spinning around, nearly colliding with a concrete barrier and leaving thick black marks on the pavement. A stifling smell of burnt rubber hangs in the air.

    Standing nearby, Mr. Shulukhi explained that he and his friends, who all race Subarus, were not really drifters. The distinction is more about social status than activity; he and his friends are mostly middle class and do not see themselves as outlaws.

    “That’s a different path from what we’re doing,” he said. “That’s crazy, forbidden stuff.”

    Mr. Shulukhi mentions the famous case of Faisal al-Otaibi, 27, a drifter who was sentenced to death after his car crashed during a joy ride in 2005, killing three teenage boys he had taken along with him. The sentence was reduced this year to 3,000 lashes, 20 years in prison and a lifetime driving ban.

    Since the arrest of Mr. Otaibi, who is always known in the Saudi press as Abu Kab (meaning, roughly, the guy with the baseball cap), the Saudi police have cracked down on drifting, treating all deaths that result from the practice as criminally negligent homicides.

    But even drag racing is dangerous, and despite its prevalence in every major Saudi city, the police try to discourage it.

    Just after 1:30, a group of police cars show up, lights flashing, sending the racers scattering. The officers do not arrest anyone. They just step out of their cars and begin talking to the young men in a paternal manner, urging them to go home.

    “We have another place we go when this happens,” Mr. Shulukhi said confidently, getting into his Impreza and driving a few blocks to a shopping center parking lot. There, scores of other young men are waiting by their cars, some examining their engines. At 2:30, the police show up again, the next step in a game of cat and mouse that lasts much of the night.

    This time Mr. Shulukhi and his friends drive north, stopping for coffee at a drive-through called French Roast, until they reach their ace in the hole: a dark strip of highway just outside the city with a construction site on one side and desert on the other. They drag-race their Subarus along a quarter-mile strip for another hour or so.

    About 5 a.m., the road begins to fill up with delivery trucks driven by Pakistani immigrants, doing the kind of low-wage job most Saudi men refuse to take. The racers decide to call it a night, and drive reluctantly home.

    Bryan Denton contributed reporting.

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    > Parker;299126 wrote:
    > blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah German cars are the best thing since sliced bread.

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    • SlowicaS Offline
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      intake valve is a pretty sweet mod.

      1993 240sx hatch - project/money pit
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      N/A is the expensive way to go slow

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        FASTER THAN DUBBSY

        > thrash;315544 wrote:
        > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
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        > Ford is back :)

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          MisterCMK;265266 wrote:
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          :lol: :lol: :lol:

          Originally Posted by 00vtec View Post
          I take cash or check. True honda owners can hear it in anything no matter what the mods.

          "Imo kick yo ass so hard that candy comes out"

          hung like a butterfly but stings like a bee....

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          • RexwagonR Offline
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            I always new Haji and the mad tyte drifters on here were the same.

            GAY

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              I've had that damn gif, for I don't know how long, just waiting for the right moment to use it and then you go throw that son of bitch up here...........bastard. 😠
              :lol:

              Sounds to me that it's just the Saudis that are gay and they just happen to like drifting. I don't even know if I'd call what they do is drifting, it's more like shit can it til you hit 80, crank the wheel and hope for the best.

              Sterling Archer: Oh my god! You killed a hooker!
              Cyril Figgis: Call girl!
              Sterling Archer: No Cyril! When they're dead they're just hookers!
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              • bubbaB Offline
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                Fargostreet says: thurmanmerman is gay

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                08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
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                90 Honda CRX - Project car
                90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

                Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                • thurmanmermanT Offline
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                  bubba;265284 wrote:
                  Fargostreet says: thurmanmerman is gay

                  OMG your so mean you small bald headed man. You make me cry.

                  Go fuck a duck.

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                  > Parker;299126 wrote:
                  > blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah German cars are the best thing since sliced bread.

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                    thurmanmerman;265289 wrote:
                    OMG your so mean you small bald headed man. You make me cry.

                    Go fuck a duck.

                    I heard hes more into sheep.

                    [SIZE="4"]you aren't unique like me... cant handle that my interior probably looks better than yours?[/SIZE][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      o and now it starts^^^

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                        Bp-08;265299 wrote:
                        I heard hes more into sheep.

                        Its dogs dumbass.

                        I wanna go fast!

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                          Bp-08;265299 wrote:
                          I heard hes more into sheep.

                          Good job asshole. Now this thread is gonna go into RYM. Fuck up everything. Idiot.

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                          > Parker;299126 wrote:
                          > blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah German cars are the best thing since sliced bread.

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                            Bp-08;265299 wrote:
                            I heard hes more into sheep.

                            no that's Faber, he's the one from montana...

                            Current Cars:
                            08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
                            93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
                            90 Honda CRX - Project car
                            90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

                            Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                              thurmanmerman;265289 wrote:
                              OMG your so mean you small bald headed man. You make me cry.

                              Go fuck a duck.

                              yes i'm bald, but yet still get laid by a hot chick all the time...

                              by the way ur the one that likes dudes... look next to ur sig...

                              Current Cars:
                              08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
                              93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
                              90 Honda CRX - Project car
                              90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

                              Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                                bubba
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                                D S ohM;265307 wrote:
                                Its dogs dumbass.

                                nice try... never happend

                                Current Cars:
                                08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
                                93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
                                90 Honda CRX - Project car
                                90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

                                Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                                  bubba;265330 wrote:
                                  yes i'm bald, but yet still get laid by a hot chick all the time...
                                  Good for you... want a cookie?

                                  bubba;265330 wrote:
                                  by the way ur the one that likes dudes... look next to ur sig...

                                  Its called an inside joke. One that you probably know nothing about.

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                                  > Parker;299126 wrote:
                                  > blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah German cars are the best thing since sliced bread.

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                                    bubba;265330 wrote:
                                    yes i'm bald, but yet still get laid by a hot chick all the time...

                                    Pics or it didn't happen

                                    2008 MR Honda Fit Sport 5MT[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]-Daily
                                    1989 Honda CRX HF**-Chariot-**
                                    1995 GMC Sierra

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                                      Bassplayer;265339 wrote:
                                      Pics or it didn't happen

                                      no need for pics... already been plastered here...

                                      Current Cars:
                                      08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
                                      93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
                                      90 Honda CRX - Project car
                                      90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

                                      Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                                      • bubbaB Offline
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                                        thurmanmerman;265337 wrote:
                                        Good for you... want a cookie?

                                        Its called an inside joke. One that you probably know nothing about.

                                        yes i would like a cookie

                                        and i'm glad i dont know about it... i'd rather not be associated with you and ur gay lover/ only friend joel...

                                        Current Cars:
                                        08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
                                        93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
                                        90 Honda CRX - Project car
                                        90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

                                        Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                                        • thurmanmermanT Offline
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                                          bubba;265341 wrote:
                                          yes i would like a cookie

                                          and i'm glad i dont know about it... i'd rather not be associated with you and ur gay lover/ only friend joel...

                                          Other than it didn't even start with Joel. Knowledgablites you have about me = none. Eat shit and die. No cookie for you.

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                                          > Parker;299126 wrote:
                                          > blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah German cars are the best thing since sliced bread.

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