new car stereo help!
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i forgot to mention one important factor: how low can the woofer play? i listen to a lot of techno with really low sounds that my headphones reproduce, but my stereo can't match. one big factor in leaning toward the 8w7 is that it can play very low stuff.
i have been considering a 10" pioneer because they are rated for 20hz and seem to be a pretty safe bet.
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If you are concerned about hitting the lows right, you should also be concerned about what your box is tuned to. A prefab box probably will not get you the lows you are gonna be looking for..you will probably have to go custom
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Correct...box construction will be HUGE in determining the ability of the sub to play low. Also, vehicle cabin is another huge determining factor. I would suspect a beetle would do very well as it is pretty round which helps minimize reflections.
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i have not bothered acquiring a book on the acoustic analysis of speaker-box design, so i'm kind of in the dark on this point. how does one tune a sealed box?
i'm planning to grab a pre-fab box to use with my audiobahn 12" for a while, probably with some stuffing. when i do buy a better woofer, i will not skimp on the box.
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tuning a sealed enclosure is done 99% by building it to the spec of the woofer. Generally larger boxes produce deeper more natural bass, whereas smaller enclosures are tighter/snappier but don't go near as deep.
In the past 5 years my attitudes on vented enclosures has changed 100%, right now they are my preferred setup (if done right) and tuning them is done by a combination of box size, vent width/length and vent location.
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slow90gsx;266578 wrote:
Like cardboard box or an enclosure for your sub? Old school installer joke.Cardboard...duh!
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when building the box to woofer specs, if an 8" woofer calls for a sealed box that is .8 cubic foot at most, how much larger would you suggest building it to play deeper?
any filling in the larger box?
what about filling the smaller box?
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Which sub is it that you are using? I can run it through a couple loudspeaker design programs and get back to you.
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so far, based just on the specs and prices that i've seen, the most serious contenders are: jl 8w7, kicker 8" l7, and pioneer 10" w258d4.
after i have wiring in my car, i'll be able to do some real-world testing with stuff i have sitting around and get a better idea of just how much it will take to make the kind of rumble that i want. i'm hoping to get that done by friday
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All three are excellent subs. Of them, the JL is (IMHO) the best of the group, followed by the Pioneer and then Kicker (I'm still not a fan of square subs from Kicker...)
If 10's are acceptable (based on the Pioneer) look into SE series from RE Audio (ask Scott Blodgett aka Bomex-E what he thinks of his) or if you want a square sub, look into http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/products/subwoofers/TS75_sub.cfm, of all the square subs I've ever heard, these are (IMHO) heads and shoulders above the rest.
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chuck, based on what you have said about the 8w7 and what i've heard come out of them, i think that is going to be my choice. however, i do like what some of the 10" woofers show for specifications and i'm curious if you have any of them on hand and in an enclosure? i put together a disc that i am going to use to test a couple of speakers to see how low they play, one track slowly rises from zero to 100hz :D. how well every contender performs there will play a large part in my decision.
lastly, since space is an issue, would you want to take a look at my car's spare compartment to see what i have to work with to still maintain a minimal impact on trunk space (and keep the whole system pretty stealth)? -
Sure, I'd be glad to give you an idea on what can be done and give you a few different options.
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