06 Mazda speed 6 or 05 Subaru legacy GT
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Colin;281877 wrote:
all the other shit aside. your car stock for stock, would not beat a spec bThe power to weight ratios are nearly identical, and I have better gearing...
So it's a driver's race like I said before.
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Mazdaspeed6;281855 wrote:
Ok, by admitting your a Fanboy, you're admitting you can't make fair comparisons between 2 cars...Why are you cocking off on fargostreet, when you could have dissed my car in person Derek? I don't understand people that knock cars worth multiples of their own... Or don't even thank someone for lending them a welder... I have never been anything but respectful to you. Even when you were afraid to race me, b/c your REX wasn't up to the task or broken or something, I didn't diss your car.
I like having HID's and 8 airbags to protect myself. The fake tips are no big deal, the Lexus IS-F has them and anyone with common sense would rock an IS-F over an Legacy.
You don't read very many magazines, the Evo X almost always comes out on top.
You don't know very much about my car. You can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that my car is not reflective of the entire MS6 population. The highest dyno so far is 386whp, do you think that was done with a few bolt ones? The fastest stock MS6 run is 13.53 . My car, stock for stock will outhandle, and out brake a Spec B, and run door to door down the strip. The stock stereo and keypass sytem blow the suby out of the water too...
That being said, G/L to the OP with his purchase! Sounds like you're being smart and not overpaying...
whoa there bucko, i am not being cocky about anything. just stating a fact that ms6 are inferior in design. awd system is crap. any subaru will walk all over you on ice and/or deep snow. and who cares what your cars is worth, overpriced. thats why you dont see them very often. your car isnt 386 whp. so y are you talking about. and if thats the most that ppl have gotten out of it then that proves a lot. you can get more from a honda with a turbo. wow. you may run door to door if you dont break your rear end shear bolts. lmao. the spec b could have a 2.6 60 ft, and still be even at the end with your 1.8 60ft, lol.
then the designers have a horrible way to cool the intercooler. with a pipe? lol.
quit trying to stick up for your pathetic excuse of a purchess. we dont care what car you drive. you can stick your loud annoying bov up your ass then if you want to be a douche about it.
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Mazdaspeed6;281729 wrote:
Btw, what was your best 60' time with the amazing Subaru AWD system. Like 2.6sec? Ok then, don't be a dick towards me Derek.My best? 1.53....down 1 cylinder at the time as well.
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Trafik Jamz;281898 wrote:
My best? 1.53....down 1 cylinder at the time as well.I didn't realize your name was Derek...
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Rexwagon;281894 wrote:
whoa there bucko, i am not being cocky about anything. just stating a fact that ms6 are inferior in design. awd system is crap. any subaru will walk all over you on ice and/or deep snow. and who cares what your cars is worth, overpriced. thats why you dont see them very often. your car isnt 386 whp. so y are you talking about. and if thats the most that ppl have gotten out of it then that proves a lot. you can get more from a honda with a turbo. wow. you may run door to door if you dont break your rear end shear bolts. lmao. the spec b could have a 2.6 60 ft, and still be even at the end with your 1.8 60ft, lol.then the designers have a horrible way to cool the intercooler. with a pipe? lol.
quit trying to stick up for your pathetic excuse of a purchess. we dont care what car you drive. you can stick your loud annoying bov up your ass then if you want to be a douche about it.
In the real world you can't state facts with out backing them Derek. You have only stated Fanboy opinions...
Wow, you have trouble reading. You said "how come you cant really mod the ms6 besides a few small bolt on crap?" Now connect that with the 386whp statement. That was done with an upgraded turbo, I'm sure I could dig up a link for you, but you still won't admit you spoke without knowing what you're talking about will you?
You don't like the intercooler design, what are you an engineer now or something? You don't even know the difference between a pipe and a duct wow...
Ironic you mention, a 2.6 sec 60' time. Did you not tell me in person that that's what you ran with your WRX? With your omg amazing AWD system lol...
I have launched many times since the bolts sheared 2 years ago, and my rear end is still fine. Thanks for your concern... I would be happy to race a Spec B at the track. I'll even demod to make it fair.
My AWD goes 50/50, it does amazing in the snow and ice, whether you handle that. With the stability control it may be even better than a Legacy GT in the snow
Come on, I want to see all these magazines ranting about how the EVO X has an worse AWD system than the STI... Derek are you there?
BTW, the south will never rise again...:)
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Rexwagon;281894 wrote:
whoa there bucko, i am not being cocky about anything.quit trying to stick up for your pathetic excuse of a purchess. we dont care what car you drive. you can stick your loud annoying bov up your ass then if you want to be a douche about it.
Don't say you're not being Cocky and end with a statement like that. I don't have a BOV moron... Learn how to spell purchases while you're at it. Why would I shove a BOV up my butt? lol... That makes absolutely no sense.
I'll stop defending my car when you stop attacking it... OK?
Let's talk about your car for awhile. Why is your BMW sooooo amazing? How much did you pay for it? You should get your annoying exhaust fixed. Wait, it doesn't rattle anymore? How did that get resolved?
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Trafik Jamz;281902 wrote:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Mazdaspeed-6-vs-Subaru-GT_70245.htmYou posted a video of modded spec B vs a stock MS6 as proof. Did you think I wouldn't notice that?
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No offense, but on that vid it is REALLY hard to see what the car in the right lane did at launch time...did he come out of the hole wrong, were either car modded, did one have a manual vs an auto, etc, etc, etc... (same with my video, I know). Give me 2 minutes and $0 and the MS6 won't have a chance against the WRX (reflash w/ Launch control, flat foot shifting and higher boost FTW)...give me a new style STi and gain 60 wtq and 55 whp.
The question is, why are we really arguing about this? Both cars have their merits....but I see more weaknesses coming from the MS6 personally.
Subaru= Rally heritage, one of the best AWD systems around, easy to tune/find parts for, tons of aftermarket support, reliable transportation and MUCH MUCH MUCH better in snow/mud.....the downside, it might be a little bit slower in some areas of acceleration.
MS6= Wannabe AWD system, limited aftermarket support (in comparison), apparently (by your experiences) easy to break stuff on....the upside if you ever decide to get into the 60' acceleration world championships, apparently this one will do quite well in some variation of stock vs stock comparison.
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And, FWIW, if I were buying a brand new car right now in the WRX price range, I'd buy a mazdaspeed 3 w/o question. So please don't lump me into the "fan boy" category, though I do have a preference.
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Trafik Jamz;281931 wrote:
No offense, but on that vid it is REALLY hard to see what the car in the right lane did at launch time...did he come out of the hole wrong, were either car modded, did one have a manual vs an auto, etc, etc, etc... (same with my video, I know). Give me 2 minutes and $0 and the MS6 won't have a chance against the WRX (reflash w/ Launch control, flat foot shifting and higher boost FTW)...give me a new style STi and gain 60 wtq and 55 whp.The question is, why are we really arguing about this? Both cars have their merits....but I see more weaknesses coming from the MS6 personally.
Subaru= Rally heritage, one of the best AWD systems around, easy to tune/find parts for, tons of aftermarket support, reliable transportation and MUCH MUCH MUCH better in snow/mud.....the downside, it might be a little bit slower in some areas of acceleration.
MS6= Wannabe AWD system, limited aftermarket support (in comparison), apparently (by your experiences) easy to break stuff on....the upside if you ever decide to get into the 60' acceleration world championships, apparently this one will do quite well in some variation of stock vs stock comparison.
Come on, you know reflashes aren't free, besides give the MS6 a tune and it's over for the WRX all over again.
How is the WRX better in snow? I have no reason to drive my car in mud lol... Mazda has rally heritage too. Apparently Subaru copied them and pulled out of rally too...
And I highly doubt nobody has broke part of a subby AWD stystem...
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Trafik Jamz;281932 wrote:
And, FWIW, if I were buying a brand new car right now in the WRX price range, I'd buy a mazdaspeed 3 w/o question. So please don't lump me into the "fan boy" category, though I do have a preference.You are not a Fanboy in my book, for the record, I always liked your WRX.
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I cut 1.70 60fts all day with a completely stock STI, what is your point. The 60ft argument is stupid.
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Mazdaspeed6;281933 wrote:
Come on, you know reflashes aren't freeSure they are if you are the one doing the reflash
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holy double/triple/qaud posting goin on here
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