06 Mazda speed 6 or 05 Subaru legacy GT
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Bookem;283075 wrote:
There isn't too many MS6's or LGT's on the boards, so it's a new arguement and more intriguing than the usual Ford vs. Chevy, Import vs. Domestic and Fwd vs. Rwd vs. Awd we normally see. Yes, visit Legacy forums and post back here.http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83047
apparently you guys have problems with the factory turbos too
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55332
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15254
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18887I could dig up more, but it wouldn't prove anything, all kinds of cars have issues. I said early on that they are both very good cars, and I still stand by that.
It's amazing how you pulled up my old posts but didn't pull up one of my first threads where I posted pics of the car, and fargostreet members only posted positive comments...
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bubba;283130 wrote:
here's a better thought, ban him and we dont have to put up with him at all, lol...Ban me for having a different viewpoint? sheesh!
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bubba;283157 wrote:
no, being an irritating fag... ur worse then delslow...Did you come up with that one yourself, or did you need help?
You obviously enjoy this or you would have left the thread...
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bubba;283157 wrote:
no, being an irritating fag... ur worse then delslow...No one..... is MORE irritating than delslow!!!!
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car
Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall
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JN210;283168 wrote:
dont they all? I mean...thats usually how threads like this get this big.Back in 2004, I created a thread on FS that went 50 pages in 2 days...
It's the same ignorance of facts, and failure to at least consider a different viewpoint, just different group of punks.
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I havnt seen delslow around in awhile though?...so lately he hasnt been bad.
Mazdaspeed6;283171 wrote:
Back in 2004, I created a thread on FS that went 50 pages in 2 days...It's the same ignorance of facts, and failure to at least consider a different viewpoint, just different group of punks.
now that is impressive!
*1989 Nissan 300ZX Z31 *
> DelSlow;262050 wrote:
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ruthless351;283169 wrote:
No one..... is MORE irritating than delslow!!!!Gravedigger was before your time, but possibly worse...
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Mazdaspeed6;283093 wrote:
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83047apparently you guys have problems with the factory turbos too
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55332
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15254
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18887I could dig up more, but it wouldn't prove anything, all kinds of cars have issues. I said early on that they are both very good cars, and I still stand by that.
It's amazing how you pulled up my old posts but didn't pull up one of my first threads where I posted pics of the car, and fargostreet members only posted positive comments...
Good job finding those defects. I'll give you a bit harder task this time, my Lgt has an ej20g engine that came with a tdo5 turbo, can you find any those with major defects on forums?
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Mazdaspeed6;283171 wrote:
**Back in 2004, I created a thread on FS that went 50 pages in 2 days...It's the same ignorance of facts, and failure to at least consider a different viewpoint, just different group of punks.**
This thread is half nonsense rambling!!!
Mazdaspeed6;281675 wrote:
Modified magazine can't drive. Car and Driver did 14.0 @ 99 mph IIRC.Mazdaspeed6;281676 wrote:
Yes my 60' time of 1.83 sec on BALD tires was totally gay...Mazdaspeed6;281688 wrote:
What was your best time when your car was near stock on bald tires?Mazdaspeed6;281689 wrote:
about as slow as a Legacy GT
Mazdaspeed6;281691 wrote:
how about reading reviews?http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=109487/pageId=68941
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0602_midsize_awd_sedan_comparison/index.html
The truth is both cars are very good. The speed6 is better at handling than a Legacy GT. The Legacy gt has a mod friendly engine (no doubt b/c of the STI aftermarket), it does not have a 6 speed manual. Stock for stock it's a drivers race period! Drive both cars and pick the one that's the best for you.
Mazdaspeed6;281702 wrote:
as in 60' time...Mazdaspeed6;281729 wrote:
You should look into stock legacy intercoolers exploding, or the powerloss issue. I have never broke the rear end or an axle. I only sheared the bolts. The turbo seals thing is annoying, but I'll prolly upgrade at some point anyway.Don't be a Fan Boy, especially if you have never driven a MS6. If you had you'd discover stock for stock they out handle and out brake all legacies...
Btw, what was your best 60' time with the amazing Subaru AWD system. Like 2.6sec? Ok then, don't be a dick towards me Derek.
Mazdaspeed6;281730 wrote:
The EVO X makes the STI AWD system look super gay. What's your point?My key pass system, stability control, handling, brakes, BOSE system all crap on the Legacy. Does the legacy gt even come with HID's stock? How many airbags?
Does that mean the Legacy is gay? No, it just has different strengths.
Mazdaspeed6;281731 wrote:
Well, then I guess you shouldn't be so quick to diss...Mazdaspeed6;281853 wrote:
If you looked at my original post, I was just saying saying that that the AWD system is not pure crap.You act like you run 1.3's all day long. When you likely only had a marginally better time than mine with a lighter, faster car with better tires.
Mazdaspeed6;281855 wrote:
Ok, by admitting your a Fanboy, you're admitting you can't make fair comparisons between 2 cars...Why are you cocking off on fargostreet, when you could have dissed my car in person Derek? I don't understand people that knock cars worth multiples of their own... Or don't even thank someone for lending them a welder... I have never been anything but respectful to you. Even when you were afraid to race me, b/c your REX wasn't up to the task or broken or something, I didn't diss your car.
I like having HID's and 8 airbags to protect myself. The fake tips are no big deal, the Lexus IS-F has them and anyone with common sense would rock an IS-F over an Legacy.
You don't read very many magazines, the Evo X almost always comes out on top.
You don't know very much about my car. You can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that my car is not reflective of the entire MS6 population. The highest dyno so far is 386whp, do you think that was done with a few bolt ones? The fastest stock MS6 run is 13.53 . My car, stock for stock will outhandle, and out brake a Spec B, and run door to door down the strip. The stock stereo and keypass sytem blow the suby out of the water too...
That being said, G/L to the OP with his purchase! Sounds like you're being smart and not overpaying...
Mazdaspeed6;281886 wrote:
The power to weight ratios are nearly identical, and I have better gearing...So it's a driver's race like I said before.
Mazdaspeed6;281917 wrote:
I didn't realize your name was Derek...Mazdaspeed6;281922 wrote:
In the real world you can't state facts with out backing them Derek. You have only stated Fanboy opinions...Wow, you have trouble reading. You said "how come you cant really mod the ms6 besides a few small bolt on crap?" Now connect that with the 386whp statement. That was done with an upgraded turbo, I'm sure I could dig up a link for you, but you still won't admit you spoke without knowing what you're talking about will you?
You don't like the intercooler design, what are you an engineer now or something? You don't even know the difference between a pipe and a duct wow...
Ironic you mention, a 2.6 sec 60' time. Did you not tell me in person that that's what you ran with your WRX? With your omg amazing AWD system lol...
I have launched many times since the bolts sheared 2 years ago, and my rear end is still fine. Thanks for your concern... I would be happy to race a Spec B at the track. I'll even demod to make it fair.
My AWD goes 50/50, it does amazing in the snow and ice, whether you handle that. With the stability control it may be even better than a Legacy GT in the snow
Come on, I want to see all these magazines ranting about how the EVO X has an worse AWD system than the STI... Derek are you there?
BTW, the south will never rise again...:)
Mazdaspeed6;281924 wrote:
Don't say you're not being Cocky and end with a statement like that. I don't have a BOV moron... Learn how to spell purchases while you're at it. Why would I shove a BOV up my butt? lol... That makes absolutely no sense.I'll stop defending my car when you stop attacking it... OK?
Let's talk about your car for awhile. Why is your BMW sooooo amazing? How much did you pay for it? You should get your annoying exhaust fixed. Wait, it doesn't rattle anymore? How did that get resolved?
Mazdaspeed6;281925 wrote:
You posted a video of modded spec B vs a stock MS6 as proof. Did you think I wouldn't notice that?Mazdaspeed6;281926 wrote:
something more for you:Mazdaspeed6;281933 wrote:
Come on, you know reflashes aren't free, besides give the MS6 a tune and it's over for the WRX all over again.How is the WRX better in snow? I have no reason to drive my car in mud lol... Mazda has rally heritage too. Apparently Subaru copied them and pulled out of rally too...
And I highly doubt nobody has broke part of a subby AWD stystem...
Mazdaspeed6;281934 wrote:
You are not a Fanboy in my book, for the record, I always liked your WRX.[LIST=1]
[/LIST]> Mazdaspeed6;282330 wrote:If my AWD was pure crap maybe I'd cut 2.0 60 foots, that was my point, sorry if it was misunderstood.
I never bragged, don't twist what I said please.
Mazdaspeed6;282331 wrote:
b/c he's charging in his signatureMazdaspeed6;282332 wrote:
change your signature then if they're freeMazdaspeed6;282333 wrote:
lol, that was weak...Mazdaspeed6;282331 wrote:
b/c he's charging in his signatureMazdaspeed6;282332 wrote:
change your signature then if they're freeMazdaspeed6;282333 wrote:
lol, that was weak...Mazdaspeed6;282334 wrote:
let me know when you prove me wrong on anything...oh wait, you can't...
Mazdaspeed6;282379 wrote:
I had no need to multiquote... Yes I'm stupid, it's amazing I can hold down a job repairing and designing electromechanical industrial equipment...Seriously, most of you guys are alright in person... Get behind a keyboard and all of sudden you're all knowing lol...
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Mazdaspeed6;282380 wrote:
Thanks!Mazdaspeed6;282381 wrote:
Thanks for breaking that down for me lol... Like a person could only use get a free tune with WRX and not a speed6... Which also gains a ton of power in the process by the way...Mazdaspeed6;282403 wrote:
You seriously got that impression? I never said my car was better than anyones. You apparently don't remember me drooling over Tony's 370Z and giving him props? I never ever dispected your WRX did I? What did I say Derek? Let's see how good of a liar you are...Mazdaspeed6;282331 wrote:
b/c he's charging in his signatureMazdaspeed6;282332 wrote:
change your signature then if they're freeMazdaspeed6;282333 wrote:
lol, that was weak...Mazdaspeed6;282334 wrote:
let me know when you prove me wrong on anything...oh wait, you can't...
Mazdaspeed6;282379 wrote:
I had no need to multiquote... Yes I'm stupid, it's amazing I can hold down a job repairing and designing electromechanical industrial equipment...Seriously, most of you guys are alright in person... Get behind a keyboard and all of sudden you're all knowing lol...
Mazdaspeed6;282380 wrote:
Thanks!Mazdaspeed6;282381 wrote:
Thanks for breaking that down for me lol... Like a person could only use get a free tune with WRX and not a speed6... Which also gains a ton of power in the process by the way...Mazdaspeed6;282403 wrote:
You seriously got that impression? I never said my car was better than anyones. You apparently don't remember me drooling over Tony's 370Z and giving him props? I never ever dispected your WRX did I? What did I say Derek? Let's see how good of a liar you are...Mazdaspeed6;282474 wrote:
Have you honestly driven a MS6? Please quote where I said the MS6 was a better overall car. Both cars are very good, I'm just defending the MS6.Mazdaspeed6;282475 wrote:
You most absolutely are a liar. You're making accusations that are not true. You had an opportunity to back up your statement that I'm a snob and you couldn't come up with an instance. That makes you a liar...Mazdaspeed6;282476 wrote:
Really? Well you can't do my job, and I can't do your job. So I guess we are both not stupid...Btw, when you drove an MS6 what didn't you like?
Mazdaspeed6;282478 wrote:
You like to think about guys putting their wangs in other guys?Maybe you could get one of those cute rainbow stickers for your back window?
Mazdaspeed6;282480 wrote:
Maybe if there wasn't a pack of fanboy trolls in this thread the other 6 people that voted for the MS6 could speak their mind w/o getting attacked?That's ok tho, I'll take all you on till the lock...
Mazdaspeed6;282481 wrote:
Yes, the car can be tuned with Cobb Accessport, at some point I will either street tune the car myself or take it to RS motors.If I had a Subby, I would give you some business b/c your rates are very reasonable. Have you got a tune on the tundra yet?
Mazdaspeed6;282525 wrote:
I "Re-read" and found no instance of me attacking anyone's car in person while you were there.lame...
Derek can't back anything up b/c he's a self-admitted Fanboy that wants the dirty south to rise again and get crapped on by the North just like before...
Mazdaspeed6;282526 wrote:
I'm not following, you drove a MS6 and discovered that it's a Mazda?:icon_scratch:
btw, what car is that in your avatar?
Mazdaspeed6;282541 wrote:
Well at least you're honest :icon_salut:Maybe you could teach REXwagon a few things?
Mazdaspeed6;282542 wrote:
Yawn...Mazdaspeed6;282544 wrote:
So it was as bad as Spec B, and much worse than a 335xi?You could say that about any car turned into a drag car...
Mazdaspeed6;282604 wrote:
Didn't come with an auto and was poorly marketed... Just b/c it was cut doesn't mean it's a bad car. Would you say the S2000 sucked b/c it was discontinued? I expect better arguments out of you...Mazdaspeed6;282605 wrote:
Derek:Mazdaspeed6;282649 wrote:
I dunno, I'd rather deal with shearing off my diff mount bolts than a blown engine. Just me I guess...lol, well now you know what happens when you can't back anything up. YOU GET CALLED OUT ON IT!
Mazdaspeed6;282650 wrote:
I agree, Derek is kinda ignorant. Maybe he'll grow out of it?Mazdaspeed6;282651 wrote:
That's great that you couldn't say what you didn't like a few pages ago, and now quote another person that didn't say what they disliked either...I'm am now convinced to sell my car and buy a Spec B.
Mazdaspeed6;282663 wrote:
Fair enough...Mazdaspeed6;282731 wrote:
Sup, Shawn! That intake on the Cobra sounds wicked, especially in the upper RPM range lol...Mazdaspeed6;282750 wrote:
I think he's got 3.27's stock? Maybe 4.10s would be better?Mazdaspeed6;282751 wrote:
The miata is as pure of a sports car as it gets...Your car would be amazing with an LSX swap. Has anyone done that on an RX8 yet?
Mazdaspeed6;282822 wrote:
Look up the definition of a sports car... Don't take my word for it. It's small, 2 door, 2 seater, RWD, light and tossible.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car
read under the "What makes a Sportscar a Sportscar"
Why wouldn't it be a amazing with an LSX swap?
Mazdaspeed6;283074 wrote:
What's your point? The TSB clutch has been in for 2 years do you want an update? The Rear diff never broke again (already covered in this thread btw). The low top end boost issue is resolved...You want me to visit legacy forums and pull up every issue they've had?
Mazdaspeed6;283090 wrote:
I couldn't find a MisterCMK dictionary close by...will this work? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sports+car
Mazdaspeed6;283091 wrote:
I'm not writing a paper, I assumed people understand that, please tell me where wikipedia is wrong on this one?Mazdaspeed6;283092 wrote:
Well, I've never raced a legacy gt either, from what I've read and the specs the cars are very close, and it's a driver's race... At least you're being honest tho...Mazdaspeed6;283093 wrote:
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83047apparently you guys have problems with the factory turbos too
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55332
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15254
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18887I could dig up more, but it wouldn't prove anything, all kinds of cars have issues. I said early on that they are both very good cars, and I still stand by that.
It's amazing how you pulled up my old posts but didn't pull up one of my first threads where I posted pics of the car, and fargostreet members only posted positive comments...
Mazdaspeed6;283152 wrote:
Ban me for having a different viewpoint? sheesh!Mazdaspeed6;283163 wrote:
Did you come up with that one yourself, or did you need help?You obviously enjoy this or you would have left the thread...
Mazdaspeed6;283171 wrote:
Back in 2004, I created a thread on FS that went 50 pages in 2 days...It's the same ignorance of facts, and failure to at least consider a different viewpoint, just different group of punks.
Mazdaspeed6;283174 wrote:
Gravedigger was before your time, but possibly worse...<u>SOLD MY RX8</u> <<<<<< Click Here
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Speaking of rambling, did you bother to look at Rexwagon's posts? Or bubba's, or Parkers, or yours?
Nobody is forcing to stay, just leave if you hate the thread...
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Bookem;283181 wrote:
Good job finding those defects. I'll give you a bit harder task this time, my Lgt has an ej20g engine that came with a tdo5 turbo, can you find any those with major defects on forums?I really don't care if you have any defects with your car concerning those components. Totally pointless, I could tell you to do the same with specific components on my car too...
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