Flood Fight 2010
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take it with a grain of salt. again, these guys cant accurately predict anything 2 days in advance, none the less 6 weeks
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STiSchucky;300423 wrote:
take it with a grain of salt. again, these guys cant accurately predict anything 2 days in advance, none the less 6 weeksThere is extreme truth to that! However, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that we are on par if not worse off compared to last year....much is dependent upon the rate of thaw, however seeing as how this is a 'hybrid-el nino' year, history says it is a seasonably warm spring, with above average precipitation. It will flood, we all know this...just hope it isn't another bad year :icon_shaking:
I want to meet the guy that made up 'hybrid el nino' to counteract the negativity they received for claiming this is an el nino year, and then failed.
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STiSchucky;300423 wrote:
take it with a grain of salt. again, these guys cant accurately predict anything 2 days in advance, none the less 6 weeks
Considering the forecast I saw for the next month or whatever it was went something like 'There is an equal chance of average, above average, or below average temperatures with an equal chance of average, above average, or below average precipitation'.sigh
XJHEAD;300425 wrote:
We are fucked.That's the spirit.
I'll have to practice my skid steer driving skills to get read for sandbag hauling at the dome. I've been doing some thinking about when I start to move out and what I'll actually leave behind to live off of. Might end up sleeping under my desk at the office.
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since im sure none of you get this far south, if you had any idea how much water is south of breck/wahp in the bois de soix basin you would be getting your asses in gear. Put it this way, you are totally fucked. I would start planning on either large walls, or start cleaning out the basement, and just expecting to shut down the house and move out for a couple weeks.
In 97 we had 6" of water in front of our house, we are preparing to push up a 1-2' dike around the house already, In fact there was so much water last fall our yard flooded from rain 6 times. Never before has this happened
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We snow blowed a spot big enough to drive a truck around out back yard this year. My Dad and I have decided to olny go to 41' unless the city tells us we have to go higher. If the basement floods, then it floods. I don't think we are going to be fighting as hard this year as we did last year... Not worth it anymore... That plan may change, but who knows.
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Grr;300429 wrote:
since im sure none of you get this far south, if you had any idea how much water is south of breck/wahp in the bois de soix basin you would be getting your asses in gear. Put it this way, you are totally fucked. I would start planning on either large walls, or start cleaning out the basement, and just expecting to shut down the house and move out for a couple weeks.In 97 we had 6" of water in front of our house, we are preparing to push up a 1-2' dike around the house already, In fact there was so much water last fall our yard flooded from rain 6 times. Never before has this happened
This guy hit the nail on the head.
The amount of snow/water in the Fargo/Moorehead area is not really the big issue. Its the rivers that flow to Fargo.. The stuff east of us just got another foot of snow..
The big factor= the area south of us, and as Grr just told us, they have a shit ton of snow on the ground along with ground moister from last fall.
I agree, I would say we are pretty well fucked.... Unless the thaw plays out a ridiculously slow rate.
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XJHEAD;300435 wrote:
I am just speculating, but I think a Dike will go on 32nd Ave, south.I used to know a dyke who lived over there.....wait, what?
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I am very interested down south here to see how the overland flooding is going to change. There are around 8 new large high volume gated waterways in 3 mile increments from breck to the north. They are creating a terrace effect mostly in the abercrombie area to keep anything in the wild rice from making a round trip all the way to wahp and then back north. Also the east-west roads are terraced as well. On the MN side, there are 3 new VERY large ravines that have been added to quell overland flooding from the north.
All these things are great for down here, but will only amplify the problem for fargo unless they actually plan it out and do holds across unpopulated sections down here. Remember that a 640 acre section that holds 1 foot of water is about 200 million gallons of water. Most are setup to hold about 3 feet or .65 billion gallons without taking out roads. I know there are plans laid out for some areas down here of about 8-10 sections to hold water, (6.5 billion gallons+!) but if these do not play out there really isnt much you northerners can hope for.
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Joel;300432 wrote:
We snow blowed a spot big enough to drive a truck around out back yard this year. My Dad and I have decided to olny go to 41' unless the city tells us we have to go higher. If the basement floods, then it floods. I don't think we are going to be fighting as hard this year as we did last year... Not worth it anymore... That plan may change, but who knows.booo. put down some cement and use ibeams
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Grr;300443 wrote:
Remember that a 640 acre section that holds 1 foot of water is about 200 million gallons of water. Most are setup to hold about 3 feet or .65 billion gallons without taking out roads. I know there are plans laid out for some areas down here of about 8-10 sections to hold water, (6.5 billion gallons+!) but if these do not play out there really isnt much you northerners can hope for.which sounds like big numbers - but the figures I've heard thrown around about retention is that 400,000-600,000 acres 1' deep of water would only drop the river a couple feet.
Honestly, I think the solution needs to be a combination of all the options. Dig the diversion, add some temporary retention (waffling - dams won't do it), and have protection in place for 35' through town.
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I just bought a house last nov. on 7th st s and basically 37th ave s in moorhead, pretty much fucked if the flood is worse than last year cause they put the dike on 8ths st last year. At any rate, I have flood insurance and an unfinished basement, so i will just be putting the things i want replaced in my basement and not worry about much else while i'm out sandbagging...
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