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    I remember reading something about this my first year of college. I couldn't believe there was a University of North Dakota.

    If all these politically correct people had their way we would not have any mascots at all because they would be all deemed offensive.

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      I say why stop there? I think UND should be burned to the ground for the years of disrespect sent towards the Sioux tribes! UND is a disgrace!!!

      No but seriously, I'm really gonna miss the "Sioux suck shit" chants! 😞

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        The name will not change. The man who built all those buildings for UND will not have it.

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          Bad93ex wrote:
          The name will not change. The man who built all those buildings for UND will not have it.
          Ralph Engelstad passed away in 2002. I can't see UND keeping the name if it will cost them postseason opportunities. That would be foolish.

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            Where is the line to say what is offensive and what isn't? I know people who are sioux or part sioux and are proud and not offended. This is stupid.

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              Hence the reason for the thread, to show them that it is stupid.

              p.s. If you haven't got a hold of brian, pm me and I'll give you his #

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                The school has the choice of changing there name or not. It just wont let them host post season tournaments. Big deal for most colleges. If the University of North Dakota decides to change the name, they will lose the rights to Ralph Engelstad Arena. It is in contract that they must keep the name and the school does not own the building.

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                  If the slogan was "The would-be fighting Sioux but they are too drunk fight very well" then I can see that being offensive. Thats where I would draw the line.

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                    Most native americans that I know aren't offended by the name....unless they feel like arguing. I'm serious there, it is not a poke at them or their culture, just my general observation in regard to this and similar matters.

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                      99slowGSX wrote:
                      The school has the choice of changing there name or not. It just wont let them host post season tournaments. Big deal for most colleges. If the University of North Dakota decides to change the name, they will lose the rights to Ralph Engelstad Arena. It is in contract that they must keep the name and the school does not own the building.
                      Good point....I stand corrected. UND is fucked!

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                        /\ Lmao @ DaveH /\ Anyone bother asking the Souix nation if they care?

                        One time...

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                          I guess the movement behind the changing of the name is mostly being pushed by those who are not of Sioux heritage.

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                            CCr, I have brian's number, I was just giving him a reminder. I'm in no hurry.

                            I don't understand how it could be offensive. Hell, I'm Irish, and I have a buddy who is Irish who is the biggest Notre Dame fan I know. He said he would go kill someone if they changed their name.

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                              I say quite the post season if they force und to change names, they need the sioux more than und needs them. I love how Ralph engraved the logo on everthing he could just for this situation.
                              It will cost a pretty pennie to get rid of all of the logo's.

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                                I think all of this talk is ridiculous. People are offended by ANYTHING, AND EVERYTHING these days. And yeah Brian is right... I don't see their name EVER changing because they will lose the arena if they do.

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                                  I heard this on the radio today.

                                  UND is in the top 50 of ALL NCAA schools in the United States for merchandise sales.
                                  The UND Logo was DESIGNED by a Sioux Indian.

                                  And on a personal note:

                                  I never played hockey, but UND hockey got me interested in watching the game. Their games are fun to go to, they put on a great show, an they are damn good. OK bye.

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                                    anyone e-mailing saying it sucks? I am not offended by the irish, but they are fighting too! Fuck that big university and their lawyer, take them all out of post season play or cover their names!

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                                      CCr wrote:
                                      anyone e-mailing saying it sucks? I am not offended by the irish, but they are fighting too! Fuck that big university and their lawyer, take them all out of post season play or cover their names!

                                      Say what? Why would they take them out of post season play......they just can't host post season tournaments

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                                        DaveH wrote:
                                        If the slogan was "The would-be fighting Sioux but they are too drunk fight very well" then I can see that being offensive. Thats where I would draw the line.
                                        btleier wrote:
                                        I think all of this talk is ridiculous. People are offended by ANYTHING, AND EVERYTHING these days. And yeah Brian is right... I don't see their name EVER changing because they will lose the arena if they do.

                                        that about sums up my thoughts on this whole thing. people just finding another reason to bitch because they dont have anything else to do.

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                                          now with listening to why the name is offesive couldnt they just shorten the name to the "souix" and just leave off the "fighting" part, the word souix shouldnt be offesive to anybody i can see why the word fighting in front of it can make it seem like native americans are all violent people

                                          but then again if these people werent bitching about this they would find something else to bitch about

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