Return to New Orleans... wow

[Flowcus]

They need to get more national guard troops in there and enforce Martial Law. It truely is the only way to stop the fucking looters and the retards that shoot innocents that are trying to help them.

Problem being a very large majority of our weapons, troops, and military vehicles are over in Iraq fighting the pointless war.

I view whats going on down there as our own little Iraq.

[weshole]

Flowcus wrote:
I view whats going on down there as our own little Iraq.

Yup, and the people that hate America are just eating this stuff up.

[Guest]

I agree with everything you stated in that last post Dave, I tried to pick it apart and try and pull the right wing agenda out of it but it made pretty damn good sense. The only thing I have a slight issue with is stating that everyone on welfare is abusing the system. I agree that a lot are, but certainly not all. Oh, and 25% (the people remaining) of 500,000 (total people in N.O.) is 125,000 not 300,000 as listed above.

The thing that gets me is that FEMA had this situation in N.O. listed as the #3 worst thing that could happen to the USA. This info was assessed and made public after the attacks on NYC 4 years ago. They pretty much outlined exactly what would happen in this city should there be a hurricane. Once again, the White House ignored a memo and failed to have the proper plans in place (or even thought out) on what to do in this case.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/2005/08/katrina_proves.php

This article kind of shows the other side. Though I don't disagree with Daves comments I think it only fair that people be offered both sides.

Yes, the gov't didn't make the people down there turn on each other. They didn't make the people loot/riot. What they did do was fail to have a plan in place for such an event. Period.

Now before anyone says "well, you hate america" (and I'm not refering to wes's comments) let me add that had I had my way 12 years ago, I would be in the Army today. I tried to sign up but had a physical condition that would not allow it.

[Flowcus]

And as far as chuck stating that the white house ignored FEMA... not only did they ignore them. Bush cut the budget for the Army Corps of Engineers this summer for the 3rd year in a row. So they didnt have the funding to fix the levees or even prepare for something like this.

[94NDTA]

Holy crap. Makes the flood of 97 look like a cake walk.

[fallguy]

Flowcus wrote:
And as far as chuck stating that the white house ignored FEMA... not only did they ignore them. Bush cut the budget for the Army Corps of Engineers this summer for the 3rd year in a row. So they didnt have the funding to fix the levees or even prepare for something like this.

I believe the amount they needed to shore up the levees was 40 billion. None of the past administrations thought is was a good idea to drop that much on one city either. Even the "lefts" savior Clinton. Hell, he was sitting on a huge surplus too! The priority for this administration is the war on terror. Can you imagine what would happen if terrorist cordinate a dirty bomb scenerio in multiple cities? You could take Katrina and multiply it. I wonder what was 1 and 2 on FEMA's list?

[stephen bradley]

I think it's sad that armed troops are even needed down there. What is this world coming to?

[Guest]

they have a town called new town, because the old town was flooded by sakakawea (I don't care if it's spelled wrong) I think they should all move above sea level. That would make sure that this never happens again.

[Guest]

fallguy wrote:
I believe the amount they needed to shore up the levees was 40 billion. None of the past administrations thought is was a good idea to drop that much on one city either. Even the "lefts" savior Clinton. Hell, he was sitting on a huge surplus too! The priority for this administration is the war on terror. Can you imagine what would happen if terrorist cordinate a dirty bomb scenerio in multiple cities? You could take Katrina and multiply it. I wonder what was 1 and 2 on FEMA's list?

#1 Nuke NYC
#2 Terrorist attack on hoover dam

I agree, there is no precedent for this. But this happened POST 9/11, and that was the day (according to the right) that changed the way we need to look at everything, therefore all past precedents need to be ignored. Thats how we justified a pre-emptive attack on Iraq, right?

[krzydrftr93]

I agree with moving above sea level. They are saying they are going to clean up and what not. What are you going to save in a building that water was above the roof. Absolutely nothing. What are they thinkin. and let it be. Screw wastign money to build it over so it can happen again sooner or later.