Final Fantasy VII for PS3?!?!
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Console games suck. Haven't found one that I've wanted to play for more than an hour at a time (possible exception is the Tiger Woods golf series).
Give me a MMORPG on a PC anyday.
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Stormwalker wrote:
FF7 is where Squaresoft began their slide into lameness and ruin. That game sucked, and the games to follow sucked even more. In fact, the only worthwhile game they released on the playstation was FF tactics. Otherwise, FF9 was not terrible, but none of their new titles comes anything close to their legends, such as FF2, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Breath of Fire, etc. Once gameplay and fun factor was sacrificed for eye candy, the spirit of their RPGs was forever broken.I thought you told me that you never finished VII, or am I thinking of someone else? I know for a fact you never played FFX. I still think that had the best story out of any RPG I've played.
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Stormwalker wrote:
Once gameplay and fun factor was sacrificed for eye candy, the spirit of their RPGs was forever broken.are you implying that FF7 looked good? the only good looking parts were the cut and battles scenes, the rest of the game looked like lego figures walking around.
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i dont know if they are actually gonna make the game. i hear there is a movie called final fantasy 7 advent children. the art work in that is amazing.
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So no one besides me liked FF 7?
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i liked final fantasy 7 back in the day when i had a playstation. good game.
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Don't they have an anthology of FF III out for PS1?
Would like to play it so I can say I have played all US final fantasies.
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Bad93ex wrote:
So no one besides me liked FF 7?I thought it was kick ass when it came out, was a great game for the PS One. Been playing a lot of the original reworked FF for the gameboy advance. If you haven't checked it out yet you should. Played it through 3 times already and half way through my fourth. Great classic game. If they make FF7 for the PS3 I'll probably have to buy it. I'm already planning on buying the Xbox 360 so the more the merrier I guess.
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The thing I dont like about XBOX is the lack of RPG's it is analogous to Civic's with no torque.
Fable was the closest thing they had to a good RPG but it was not very long at all. I will have to say that Elder Scrolls is the only thing it seems they have going for them in the RPG realm.
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out there wrote:
you children... have you ever played ff3? it will take a lot of convincing before i give up my belief that kefka is the most evil villian. if you don't believe me, play ff3 through and see what you thinkDid Kefka kill his creator? Thought so... Sephiroth FTW!
And yes I currently own every single FF release in the united states... Even Chocobo Dungeon ( gay kids action RPG ) and FFXI which I quit after 3 months due to lack of end-game.
Best FF ever I would have to say is Tactics. In my opionion just because of the replay ability. I had over 350 hours into that game just trying out different jobs and what not.
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tjamz wrote:
Console games suck. Haven't found one that I've wanted to play for more than an hour at a time (possible exception is the Tiger Woods golf series).Give me a MMORPG on a PC anyday.
True, but I have found WoW to outrank EQ2 expecially the end-game PVP. Chuck you should think about playing WoW... The regular game kicks major ass, expecially the 60 raid instances, but the PVP is more than worth it and once you try it youll see.
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Alright, you guys are beginning to compare apples to oranges. First of all, we can all agree that
Blizzard > Squaresoft (xeleventybillion)
With the giant elephant put in it's place in the corner (WoW), we can get back to discussing Squaresoft games.
Most people that I hear say they love FF7, have never even played FF2, 3, or 5 (most have not played 5, since there was no official US release). Final Fantasy 7 was not terrible, but worse than any of the SNES games. Final Fantasy 8 took all the rules of RPGs and broke them, hoping for a brilliant game. Instead, they quite possibly have the worst RPG ever created. Chrono Cross is interesting, but seems to be lacking as far as objectives, and can get as monotonus as Breath of Fire IV in places (spend about 2 hours fighting the same group of enemies on the same terrain with the same characters, etc..).
As far as Squaresoft is concerned, the best game they ever released was....
Chrono Trigger. There is no debate about this. If you are too young to remember pre-ordering your Super Ninendo Entertainment System, then your opinion simply does not count. Chrono Trigger was and remains the best console RPG ever released, much to the chagrin of Lunar fans (another great RPG forgotten to time...). This is a widely agreed upon FACT. There is no room for debate here.The only question is...
Will Squaresoft ever hire someone like that guy who did Chrono Trigger, FF2. FF3, etc? I forget his name, but he only designed the games for the SNES platform, he did not actively participate in the psx games. That is why the feel of the games is so different, it is not just because of a platform jump
Really it does not matter, because console RPGs are quickly being rendered obsolete (quiet down in the corner there, elephant!).If you are a Final Fantasy 7 fanboi, then I suggest you try some of the classics, back when console RPGs were actually fun to play. I did indeed play FF7. This is what happened:
I got these big materia things, that had every spell or whatever. I also got the elusive gold chocobo. I did NOT beat Ruby weapon, but I beat the Emerald one.
I did everything in the game, and got to the final guy or whatever, Sephiroth. On one of my characters, I had a "knights of the round" materia linked with a "quad-magic" materia. The next character in line had a "mime" materia. If you know FF7 at all, you probably see what I am going to say next. Follows is over 5 minutes of sitting there, watching a ridiculous spell, full of eye candy but lackluster in relevance to the game. I hit the power button, took the game out and put it in it's case, and that is where it has stayed since. This was in what, 1997? I might add that FF7 followed the alarming trend of FF3 of not having clear cut character classes.Try Final Fantasy2, Final Fantasy3, and most of all, Chrono Trigger! Don't have an snes? no problem:
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Flowcus wrote:
Did Kefka kill his creator?
depends on what you mean by that. killing a parent and killing an omni______ "being" are totally different. and if god is merely a construct of humanity, then causing all people to stop believing in the existence of god is killing god.
(if i remember correctly) kefka declared himself to be god. sephiroth wanted to rule over all, kefka just wanted to kill everyone and everything, period. kefka took joy in bringing destruction to everything, that is the ultimate evil. -
Bad93ex wrote:
The thing I dont like about XBOX is the lack of RPG's it is analogous to Civic's with no torque.Fable was the closest thing they had to a good RPG but it was not very long at all. I will have to say that Elder Scrolls is the only thing it seems they have going for them in the RPG realm.
Knights of the Old Republic if you like Star Wars. The first was game of the year when it came out. One of my favorite games ever.
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Stormwalker wrote:
Alright, you guys are beginning to compare apples to oranges. First of all, we can all agree thatBlizzard > Squaresoft (xeleventybillion)
Squaresoft > Blizzard, I would agree on that... but not the other.
Personally I like Working Designs. Lunar I, Lunar II and Vay for the Sega CD. Popful Mail was also pretty neat, but that was more action-rpg. The remade Lunar's for PS1 were not nearly as good as the originals for the Sega CD.
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you guys should get hooked on FPS. much better then the Final Fantasy games IMO. i'm waiting for for the Enemy Territory: Quake Wars game to come out. that game looks awesome.
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speaking of fps.... i suppose i should start letting people know about lan parties this year?
from what i've seen, the new enemy territory looks stunning.
this year, i'm hoping to seperate teams, one in the house and one in the garage.
by the way, we don't only play fps at the lan parties, they just offer the most excitement for the greatest number of players... however, we are always willing to implement new games if we can all play them -
out there wrote:
speaking of fps.... i suppose i should start letting people know about lan parties this year?
from what i've seen, the new enemy territory looks stunning.
this year, i'm hoping to seperate teams, one in the house and one in the garage.
by the way, we don't only play fps at the lan parties, they just offer the most excitement for the greatest number of players... however, we are always willing to implement new games if we can all play themi suppose i could maybe brush up on the ole ET skillz and own up on all you guys. i havent played in probably close to 4 months now though. damn WoW...
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