New Building Location??
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PSI2HI wrote:
That issue just came up today, funny you mention that. Just may be a possibility after a conversation i had today w/ my machinist. Gonna do some more research and talk about it and we'll see where it goes from there.i don't know if i saw that coming or not....just a lucky guess i think...but yeah, if you have a machine shop, it will prolly see business from me
on topic tho....somewhere near the interstate would be great, i live in minot, and i couldn't find my way around fargo if you gave me the navigation system out of a new cadillac....and im pretty sure there are others like me
93 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 Sandstone Grey Met. One of 136 made in '93.
97 Dodge Dakota(daily driver)(sold)
92 Eagle Talon TSi AWD(winter project)(abandoned and sold)
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52nd Avenue South is pretty damn far south, but I do have to agree that it will be a very nice area in the next couple of years. I have friends that live that far south by University so I make the drive there fairly frequently. If you bought land facing I-29, a big colorful sign would help quite a bit for pulling in customers. Then again, advertising that it's next to Thunder Road would probably take care of that.
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i think down on 45th..and on Amber Valley Parkway Rd. Would be a good place...there is a big lot open there next to pracs too....
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tweak wrote:
on topic tho....somewhere near the interstate would be great, i live in minot, and i couldn't find my way around fargo if you gave me the navigation system out of a new cadillac....and im pretty sure there are others like me
I can help you around town man. Just gotta call me up if you ever come, although im sure i ouwld know when you would be coming to begin with.Also I say by thunder road is a good spot. Its easy to get to. Not much for people to complain about when dynoing, etc...have flyin j right there for munchies and what not when there are dyno days or whatever going on there.
Matt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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krzydrftr93 wrote:
I can help you around town man. Just gotta call me up if you ever come, although im sure i ouwld know when you would be coming to begin with.Also I say by thunder road is a good spot. Its easy to get to. Not much for people to complain about when dynoing, etc...have flyin j right there for munchies and what not when there are dyno days or whatever going on there.
Met w/ the realator today, the property im currently interested in would be 3002 39th St S, it's right on the corner of the right hand turn you make to go east to Thunder Road. Also found out some not so enthusing information that the property just the North they for some stupid reason zoned for multi family housing and they plan to put apartment or townhomes/condo's there. When that may happen idk but it posed an issue for noise, so we'd be looking to shoot all our garage doors facing the south so the noise would be projected the opposite direction. Im meeting w/ the private owner of the property next week to get some finals details before i make any final decisions.
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Head porting available as well. Before and after B series numbers hopfully later this winter...
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..... Still off the beaten path.... People are going to have to look for it, and you already have that where you are at now.... At least out on 52nd you would have a chance of getting in on prime land before it is $15 sq ft... People would have to drive a little ways, but if you have a reputable business that has good customer service people will drive the extra few miles.... look at fleet farm...
IMO that location does nothing to help encourage a larger crowd into your shop and would be a waste of money.
Just my honest .02
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nismoluvr wrote:
..... Still off the beaten path.... People are going to have to look for it, and you already have that where you are at now.... At least out on 52nd you would have a chance of getting in on prime land before it is $15 sq ft... People would have to drive a little ways, but if you have a reputable business that has good customer service people will drive the extra few miles.... look at fleet farm...IMO that location does nothing to help encourage a larger crowd into your shop and would be a waste of money.
Just my honest .02
I am not doing this based off solely trying to bring in a larger crowd, im doing this because i need a lot more space then i currently have, and paying rent is like throwing $$ in the wind. @ the same time being im putting up my own building i get to pick and choose my location. Solely the overall choice will be based off initial land cost. Land on 52nd will not reach $15/sq ft. IDK anywhere in town where it is anywhere even close to that. Biggest kicker of not wanting to be on 52nd right now is that the roads will not be paved until late next year(huge issue), and right now there is nothing around it, so shipping packages(which i do daily), running to get misc parts, etc, would be a 10+ mile trip.
Perks of the Thunder Road location is its easy access off the interstate, right by 2 notable business's(Flying J and Thunder Road), the 2 roads you see in that picture will be connecting to 42nd st, and the 2 large sections of land south of thunder road they are holding off on waiting for car dealerships to be put in there.
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PSI2HI wrote:
I am not doing this based off solely trying to bring in a larger crowd, im doing this because i need a lot more space then i currently have, and paying rent is like throwing $$ in the wind. @ the same time being im putting up my own building i get to pick and choose my location. Solely the overall choice will be based off initial land cost. Land on 52nd will not reach $15/sq ft. IDK anywhere in town where it is anywhere even close to that. Biggest kicker of not wanting to be on 52nd right now is that the roads will not be paved until late next year(huge issue), and right now there is nothing around it, so shipping packages(which i do daily), running to get misc parts, etc, would be a 10+ mile trip.Perks of the Thunder Road location is its easy access off the interstate, right by 2 notable business's(Flying J and Thunder Road), the 2 roads you see in that picture will be connecting to 42nd st, and the 2 large sections of land south of thunder road they are holding off on waiting for car dealerships to be put in there.
Well I would hope that any business expanding or getting a new location would be looking for a 'larger crowd'.... Drive by traffic has helped us a lot and putting yourself back in a corner just seems like a waste of $$. It does have easy access off the interstate but your shop now has that. 13th ave exit, take fiechner north a block and there you are. You had said earlier that the city has some of that area set aside for housing.... don't know how many dealerships will want to be in a small section with housing, just seems like a pipe dream to the land owner... If there is dealerships on the hook, then it may work out well.... Obviously you are looking hard, I just think if you keep looking you would come across something a lot better... There is a reason that the land you are looking at isn't very high priced....
And $15 sq ft is easily obtained anywhere by old chicago, as one of the owners Robert Leslie has stated, while he was trying to hook us up on a new shop.
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nismoluvr wrote:
Well I would hope that any business expanding or getting a new location would be looking for a 'larger crowd'.... Drive by traffic has helped us a lot and putting yourself back in a corner just seems like a waste of $$. It does have easy access off the interstate but your shop now has that. 13th ave exit, take fiechner north a block and there you are. You had said earlier that the city has some of that area set aside for housing.... don't know how many dealerships will want to be in a small section with housing, just seems like a pipe dream to the land owner... If there is dealerships on the hook, then it may work out well.... Obviously you are looking hard, I just think if you keep looking you would come across something a lot better... There is a reason that the land you are looking at isn't very high priced....And $15 sq ft is easily obtained anywhere by old chicago, as one of the owners Robert Leslie has stated, while he was trying to hook us up on a new shop.
There is a lot of land owned by 1 owner back there that obviously is not put into perspective for you. To you guys these look like little squares. The spots he is holding out on for a dealserip or something of that nature is a total of 254,000sq ft, that just the south side. I can put up a shop on Main Ave, 32nd, 25th, etc. for WELL under $15/sq ft. I could see someone charging $15/sq ft for something w/ a nice building on it but definatly not for just bare land. What you guys dont understand is even w/ the shitty location i have right now i do plenty fine. I do A LOT of online business as well as supply a lot of other dealers w/ product, so technically i could be out in bum fuck nowhere and be fine, but w/ the oppurtunity to pick my location i may as well put it somewhere w/ easy access, and somewhere w/ some necessites near by(parts, shipping, food, etc).
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I may be putting up a second building on the same property just to lease out. From the research for every 1 person that can afford to put up a building there is 12 people looking to rent it. Also the city is now going to require all mobile business to have a permanent location that they work out of. So w/in the next year there is going to be a lot of people looking for shop space for rent, and the biggest kicker in this town is finding a nice larhge space, they don't really even exist right now.
As of right now everything is still up in the air, nothing is set in stone for a location. But i need to make up my mind soon as they want to start contsructing the structure w/in the next 2-3 weeks before the ground is frozen rock solid.
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I never said nor thought you weren't doing just fine in a bad location now! Just thought it could help expand your business by being more visible... I guess I am wrong. An internet business can survive anywhere, that is very correct!
BTW, I live in the innovis area, and would like to know for my own knowledge.... Where is a ups/fedex drop point??
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nismoluvr wrote:
I never said nor thought you weren't doing just fine in a bad location now! Just thought it could help expand your business by being more visible... I guess I am wrong. An internet business can survive anywhere, that is very correct!BTW, I live in the innovis area, and would like to know for my own knowledge.... Where is a ups/fedex drop point??
Depends if you want to go direct to them or not. I know there used to be a UPS packing/shipping store on 32nd in that strip mall where Village is in. IDK about Fed Ex, i just go direct to their main place by corwin since its close to me.
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Only thing I've gotta say is make sure to look hard at possible sound issues. Even though it's that close to interstate (with a lot of noise coming from there), people will still bitch about frequent car noise from a business like that. Do your very best to ensure that you won't be wrapped up in that battle in a year.
Have they given any more idea of what could be popping up around that area (are any of the rest of those lots sold that aren't marked as such)? Still possible apartments north?
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