Why Fargo?
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I moved here from New Jersey when my mother started teaching at MSUM, after graduation i moved to San Diego, then i moved back for free college. Now I'm married and own a house here. When my children all get to schooling age I'll leave here again.
Whatever people say about this place, it's not that bad. I've been to just about everywhere of note in the USA, this place is as good as any. More positives then negatives anyway.
I do miss the mountains though.
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HandoEX;162476 wrote:
Dude, your screen name in your sig is spelled wrong:icon_thumright:Thanks for telling me that. I did not even notice:o . I'll fix it.
3 things i couldn't live without.........
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PineInchNenis69;162482 wrote:
hahaha:icon_geek:Youngin you forgot one thing...we also live by the largest concentration of nuclear missile silo's in the US too. The Dakota's would be obliterated if a nuclear war ever happened:icon_flower:
during the cold war had north dakota decided to pull away from the union and become a country it would have been the single most powerful country in the world.
and yes, it's getting to the point where most if not all silo sites have been demolished. The only one I know off the top of my head that may still be atleast somewhat active is between hope and colgate ND. I believe it was some sort of control center for the area and was somewhat active with a military presence up until the late 90s. I haven't been by there since but I believe the buildings on site were still standing as of a couple years ago.
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I live here because my fathers parents lived here and we wanted to come home before his cancer got to him. I've been here ever since (I was 6). I like it here, weather isn't bad, I mean we all complain about it but really, we have a good 8 months of the year that don't totally suck. Crime is low except for the jackasses that want your $50 car stereo. It's cheap to live here and the jobs pay pretty well. I live here cuz I like it I guess.
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It would be interesting to see how many of you have actually gotten out of the area / lived somewhere else for an extended period of time.
I know Chris has and a few other of you have lived different places, but I can't stand Fargo. There is a huge lack of diversity and culture, but many people who live there don't see it becuase they are surrounded with people with similar backgrounds and interests.
Anyway, I'd never live on the North Dakota side anyway...
Nuclear silo's are not the major target for nuclear attack, atleast from what I've read becuase most of them are built to withstand everything but a direct hit... which would be a waste of a missle. The main targets would be largely populated cities etc...
If I'm remembering correctly, if a Nuclear war happened with another major power, many of the missles would be detonated not on the ground (where they may have the capability of destory a silo) but high above a populated area, designed to kill a large area with fallout. Regardless, the nuclear strike capabilities of the US are nowhere near dismantled, nor is there a dire need to maintain thousands upon thousands of nuclear weapons under the old theory of deterance as the soviet union no longer exists.
We still have more then enough missles to blow the world up a few times over, and during a nuclear war retaliation would not be aimed at dis-arming every nuclear weapon but destroying the country... Hence the whole cold war.
Anyway, Fargo is cold as shit, everybody is a lutheran (not a bad thing just saying), despite what you think theres very little "culture," and it has that small town appeal (which is very appealing for some, while not for others). Oh, and its conservative as all hell.
I lived in the twin cities when I was little, then New York, moved to moorhead, and then back to the Twin Cities. I'm sure I'll end up on one of the coasts... NYC or West Coast somewhere.
That being said, growing up in Fargo wasn't an all bad experience... although I feel like I missed out on alot.
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Jim;162624 wrote:
It would be interesting to see how many of you have actually gotten out of the area / lived somewhere else for an extended period of time.I know Chris has and a few other of you have lived different places, but I can't stand Fargo. There is a huge lack of diversity and culture, but many people who live there don't see it becuase they are surrounded with people with similar backgrounds and interests.
Anyway, Fargo is cold as shit, everybody is a lutheran (not a bad thing just saying), despite what you think theres very little "culture," and it has that small town appeal (which is very appealing for some, while not for others). Oh, and its conservative as all hell.
Let's see....
Lutheran? Check.
Culture? Check
Conservative? Check, check, check.
Sounds perfect if you ask me.
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HandoEX;162636 wrote:
Let's see....Lutheran? Check.
Culture? Check
Conservative? Check, check, check.
Sounds perfect if you ask me.
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Jim;162661 wrote:
It's cool. Thats why there are places like Texas and Fargo for you :icon_flower:Not saying I'd want to grow up in an uber-con area either. Maybe you just met the wrong people up here because I know plenty of extremely liberal people around the area. Up here is more moderate than many places you'll find...you honestly would like to live in a place like SanFran?
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What did you miss out on?
I grew up in Kentucky, went to school in nebraska, worked in st. louis for a summer, lived in Redmond for a few years, and now live here.
My wife and I love fargo. We were thinking we'd move to the Twin Cities within a year of moving here but after the year was up we had no interest in ever living in MSP.. visiting it as often as we do you really get the sharp contrast of all of its shittyness... traffic, high cost of living (for almost no payoff vs a real city like manhattan).... socially i'm not thrilled with it either.
A nice thing about fargo's "lack of culture" : we're not in the middle of a race/culture war being fought out in the media. (i.e. no Somali Cab driver fiasco here)
Fargo is great because you can afford to live within walking distance of downtown, and there's "enough" to do for how often we go there, and the walk and the atmosphere is safe. It's rare to find a downtown area that is worth going to, safe enough to go to, and cheap enough to live in/near, but fargo has it. Granted, I'm married and don't drink, so my expectations of a "developed" downtown area are different than lots of peoples, but we're at Nicole's almost every week.
An interesting thing.. when i lived in redmond, there were way more people with much nicer cars... and more race tracks near by... and the salary / cost of living strucutre was higher.. but i was also busier and wasted more time getting places. Since living here I've been to the track way more than when i lived out there... even though here there are fewer track events and they are further away. (we've got BIR @ 3 hrs and MAM at 5hrs.. vs seattle where you've got PR in <1 and PIR in ~3).
There's certainly some truth in the suggestion that many people in ND never leave ND for any amount of time, but some of us have lived elsewhere and still like Fargo.
In my opinion, the biggest disadvantages of fargo are:
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depressed wage and COL structure meaning fewer real dollars for non-COL adjusted goods (like cars. Professionals in big cities have nice cars because their COL is a commensurate percentage of their inflated salary, ,but the real dollar value of the 8% (or whatever) disposable income they have is higher than in a place like Fargo.. yet cars cost the same real-dollar amount everywhere)
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a side effect of the above - real estate is a poorer investment here than in some other places.. we had like a 25% return on our house in redmond after living there for 18moz..
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I moved from Fort Ripley to the Twin Cities a couple of years ago. Ever since, it has seemed to me like the political climate of MN is getting worse and worse. Don't know whether it's because I moved back to the cities and I just see stupidity around me that much more often, or if it is truly because the government in MN is getting a little out of control. With the trampling of personal property rights, MN's goal of becoming the highest taxed state in the union, and the banning of everything in sight, Minnesota is becoming less and less appealing of a place to live.
My fiancee and I have had a couple of serious discussions about possibly moving to either North or South Dakota. Seems the Dakotas don't have the hyperventilating, granola-munching, batshit-insane ultra-liberal/communist lobbyists telling the state government what not to allow it's citizens to do next.
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MisterCMK;162716 wrote:
Come to FargoYes, but then I would start posting on Fargostreet more frequently.
Could Fargostreet handle MY postwhoring? I think not.
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If you walk down the street of NYC, you hear 20 different languages, see 15 different races...
You walk down the street in Fargo and you see 20 different shades of blonde, and people that attend 15 different churches.
Oh, you say what about the mexicans, kurds, and somli's up in fargo... Its like they don't even count becuase they never assimilated in to culture like you'd find other places (and yes I know, in other cities not all minorities have either, but quite a few more then in Fargo).
You may find the occasional persian or indian doctor, and who knows there might be an asian person who works on the microsoft campus.
How many of you are considered a minority that are speaking now? Just wondering, oh and yeah, i'm not jus being a bitchy asain about it, my parents are white, I'm adopted I'm not pulling any race card or anything, just commenting
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