muffler law
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what is the actual law for aftermarket mufflers in fargo, west fargo, or just north dakota.
I got pulled over yesterday on the off ramp of I94 and sheyenne st. exit, and the officer gave me a exhuast ticket said it cant be louder than stock.
So you can have exhuast it just cant be loud? or is the actually even a law at all?
I couldnt find anything online but i'm sure theres something.
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Fargo laws put it at "officers discression" as to what is too loud and what isn't IIRC.
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Okay, well we were sittin in his car and he said he could hear my car while we were sittin in there so he said it was too loud, I guess i should've shut the car off.
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8-0908. Mufflers required--Cutouts prohibited.--No person shall drive a motor vehicle on any street or highway unless such motor vehicle is equipped with a muffler, together with any necessary extensions, pipes or resonators, in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive and unusual noise and annoying smoke. Such exhaust system shall operate to blend the exhaust noise into the over-all vehicle noise. No person shall use a Amuffler cutout@, Abypass@ or similar device on any motor vehicle upon the streets or highways in the city. The exhaust system shall not emit or produce a sharp, popping or cracking sound, nor shall it emit or produce loud or explosive noises.
Source: 1965 Rev. Ord. 8-0908, 1553 (1973).
and a revisit of an old thread: http://fargostreet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4505&highlight=Century+Code
11-0202. Unnecessary noise prohibited.--It shall be unlawful for any person to make any loud, unnecessary or unusual noise or any noise which either annoys, disturbs, injures or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace or safety of others within the limits of the city of Fargo.
Source: 2017 (1981).
11-0203. Unlawful noise--Determination.--The standards which shall be considered in determining whether a violation of 11-0202 exists shall include, but shall not be limited, to the following:
A. The volume of the noise.
B. The intensity of the noise.
C. Whether the nature of the noise is usual or unusual.
D. Whether the origin of the noise is natural or unnatural.
E. The volume and intensity of the background noise, if any.
F. Within the central business district (area bounded by First Avenue South, Seventh Avenue North, Fourth Street and Eighth Street), the following noises between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. are specifically prohibited:
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Radios, tape players or other sound amplifiers, whether portable or installed in vehicles, at a level which can be heard by a person more than 10 feet away from said vehicle or amplifier.
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Any horn, bell or other noise-making device except emergency warning devices.
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Shouting or yelling where the voice is clearly audible at a distance of more than 10 feet.
Source: 2017 (1981), 2372 (1987).
http://www.westfargopolice.com/laws/traffic.pdf
Hope that helps.
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CheapSRT;179161 wrote:
I have gotten exhaust tickets when my exhaust was factory and the judge said it broke the law because it crackles and popsI would have asked him how he expected you to fix it then. You have to bring copies of said ordinances with when you fight tickets if you want a snowballs chance in hell of getting out of them. I carry a copy of fargo's ordinance with me actually....just in case I get a cocky officer.
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Well i'm not sure if i should try my luck or not...
no law really says that its Illegal to have aftermarket exhuast.
Alls it says or from what i understand is that if the officer thinks its to loud you can get a ticket..
which is stupid
Stock harleys, and most rockets are louder than my car
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same shit happened to me and afriend and he is going to fight the ticke beings that the hi-po gave him a exhibition ticket for having too loud of exhaust
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on those rules that were posted the last one.......can you really get a ticket for yelling to loud in your car?
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also the whole 10 feet away for the stereo. my stock stereo in the montero can do that and it sucks ass, like really bad
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i was told that "my exhaust doesn't look stock" and therefore it is "illegal" because modifying your exhaust anything beyond stock is "illegal"...in that case muffler shops shouldn't even be in existance because they are aftermarket...this means we all need to order a brand new OEM exhaust from the dealership when the original one wears out...
btw...i talked to the head guy at the state patrol office (idk what his title is) and he said that if you have a stock exhaust thats loud from being old, chances are you wont get a ticket...then he said if your exhaust is made to be louder than stock that you will...
basically if you have a fully functioning exhaust that doesn't leak you will get a ticket vs. a stock leaky exhaust that's just as loud...my step-dad has had a loud (leaky) exhaust on his pickup since I can remember and he has never once gotten pulled over for it...why?...bc it LOOKS stock...fuck that shit
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btw...the exhaust ticket is just something that has been in existance for quite some time...its just that they are enforcing it more now even tho the cops themselves grew up with loud trucks/muscle cars...
as far as i am concerned, 75+% of cops out there are hypocrits...they all did it in their past, now that they have a badge they feel the need to enforce what was not enforced upon them.
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that reminds me of this jacked up truck i was driving next too a couple days ago..... this exhaust was so loud it literally almost deafened me as he drove by.... funny thing is a cop drove in the other lane coming in our direction, as the cop drove by the accelerating truck, he simply looked over and kept on truckin.
i saw that and was just like WTF!!
Originally Posted by 00vtec View Post
I take cash or check. True honda owners can hear it in anything no matter what the mods."Imo kick yo ass so hard that candy comes out"
hung like a butterfly but stings like a bee....
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I think they r just trying to get rid of the fart cans out there, n i don't blame them. That shit is annoying. I got a ticket in my Tracker years ago right when the law changed by a trooper. It has a cherry bomb where the muffler was so it looks stock(came that way) but it sounds like a fart can. He said the same thing to me anything that looks or sounds different than stock is illegal. I then told him to go pull over every Chevy pickup in town, he didn't like that.
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torbs;179240 wrote:
as far as i am concerned, 75+% of cops out there are hypocrits...they all did it in their past, now that they have a badge they feel the need to enforce what was not enforced upon them.Police officers enforce the laws because that is their job, not because they have a personal vendetta against someone. What they did in the past does not constitute hypocrisy.
Wikipedia wrote:
In an act of hypocrisy the aim is to condemn another person or people, not to condemn an act. To preach against an act of which one is oneself guilty does not in itself constitute hypocrisy, even if one takes efforts to conceal one's behaviour. It becomes hypocrisy when it involves verbal attacks or demands of punishment against perpetrators of the act that one practices oneself. Hypocrisy can be, simply put, the pot calling the kettle black.
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