Bill O'Reilly to talk about catching criminals with Ozzy tonight

[dubbsy]

Jim;193136 wrote:
Whatever, how would you feel if the fucking police used YOUR name to get people to come to a party where they were all arrested?

Seems like a non-issue to me. Like Laney has said, it's no different than inviting them to a superbowl party. There's no basis for them to cry foul.

I think it was a hell of an idea and frankly I've heard and have seen nothing but good about Paul in his position as sheriff.

[itRfan]

i think its a bunch of BS for what the sheriff did

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[CivicEX7777777]

yeah thats pretty stupid, good idea on their part but horrible for the general publics perception of the FPD now

[dubbsy]

CivicEX7777777;193161 wrote:
yeah thats pretty stupid, good idea on their part but horrible for the general publics perception of the FPD now

doubt it...

I'd find it hard to believe that anyone but die-hard ozzy fans and those who just insist on hating law enforcement would see a problem with this.

[DelSlow]

wow, you people that think this is 'terrible' are retarded. They had warrants out for there arrest! Jesus...who cares what ozzy thinks, seriously is he bitching because people think his fans are criminals or dopers? probly both.

[DaveH]

I just watched the segment and I didn't see anything about the FPD or Laney. Did you guys watch something else? I was paying attention and saw that one of the flyers they showed was from the Venue, but if I wasn't tipped off that this was about something local I never would have known it.

[StangerBanger96]

It would be interesting to see what the warrants were for...

I wonder how many people that were invited were people who forgot to show up for their speeding ticket or hadn't paid their parking ticket in a year or some other minor violation. Rather than sending an officer to their house, they decided to try get them all in one place.

If the people caught were people that had worthwhile warrants I'd say it's one thing, if it was a bunch of "oops forgot my parking ticket" people I'd say what a waste of time.

[smtomps1955]

as far as i know it was for major offenses not stupid parking tickets nothing small...FPD had nothing to do with it.

[assasain]

wait.... i never heard anything about this... wtf happened?

[Guest]

DelSlow;193166 wrote:
wow, you people that think this is 'terrible' are retarded. They had warrants out for there arrest! Jesus...who cares what ozzy thinks, seriously is he bitching because people think his fans are criminals or dopers? probly both.

Agreed.

[Jim]

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[Jim]

http://www.americandaily.com/article/20815

"And this brings me to a question. First consider this quote from Sheriff Laney:
"Why did we do this? The criminals are creative, so we had to get creative too...'' "They give us fake addresses, fake phone numbers, sometimes their families cover for them, sometimes their employees cover for them." (ABC News)

But Sheriff, if you knew where to send the invitations, why did you need to engage in the misuse of someone’s name to pick these losers up? Could you not have simply gone after them instead of descending into such chicanery? I could perhaps understand his actions had he been pursuing a dangerous and violent felon - and chances are Ozzy would have applauded his actions. But no, these fugitives were dead beat dads, people who didn’t show for court on minor offenses, and other such losers, who while in violation of the law presented no danger to society."

"We The People have every right to hold law enforcement to at least the same standard of conduct expected of the rest of us. To unnecessarily engage in such a deception, and to steal the name of a public figure is simply unacceptable. Shame on you Sheriff Laney, for failing to meet the standards of the uniform and badge the people of Cass County allow you to wear. "

[bubba]

That oriely segment sucked...wow like 2 seconds on it and the just said if it was legal or not....

[dubbsy]

Jim;193197 wrote:
But Sheriff, if you knew where to send the invitations, why did you need to engage in the misuse of someone’s name to pick these losers up? Could you not have simply gone after them instead of descending into such chicanery?

So these individuals are spread out over 40,000 square miles (they said they had people driving over 200 miles). So say you send an officer to hunt for this individual. Granted the officer knows where they are 'supposed' to be staying but that doesn't mean they are staying there, that they're home, or that whomever answers the door won't cover for them. So then the officer has to try to find a place of work and try that, maybe come back another day to that house which may turn into weeks of return visits just to get the runaround.

BUT...

Send a letter with 'free stuff' with some value and you can be damn sure that letter will follow it's chain of hands to the right person. So instead of spending what could be weeks knocking on doors (which I'm sure would come back here as 'god damn pigs knocked on my door cause I didn't pay a ticket instead of catching real criminals'), they sent out a few letters and spent a couple hours with a few officers at Playmakers and took care of nearly 40 of those outstanding warrants.

[Used]

I think the fact of the matter really is that not only did the FPD LIE to the people, that even though they were in trouble, they still have to serve and protect and i wouldnt want somebody that lies to the people be serving me . And you can pick up extra charges for giving false info to a cop so why shouldnt it be the same in this case with the FPD.

[Guest]

Used;193250 wrote:
I think the fact of the matter really is that not only did the FPD LIE to the people, that even though they were in trouble, they still have to serve and protect and i wouldnt want somebody that lies to the people be serving me . And you can pick up extra charges for giving false info to a cop so why shouldnt it be the same in this case with the FPD.

So undercover officers shouldn't be cops since they often lie about who they are and what they do to catch drug dealers, etc?

It's not like they lied and posted a 55mph speed limit sign and then said "well, we put that up to catch people....the real speed limit is 45 mph."

And as for the false info....they clearly identified who they were to the individuals when they came in.

[Used]

tjamz;193262 wrote:
So undercover officers shouldn't be cops since they often lie about who they are and what they do to catch drug dealers, etc?

It's not like they lied and posted a 55mph speed limit sign and then said "well, we put that up to catch people....the real speed limit is 45 mph."

And as for the false info....they clearly identified who they were to the individuals when they came in.

With undercovers the people that they are associated with have to be involved in an illegal endeavor. The cops told them to come here free show/party which is not true. Now if there was an show there that would have been completely true which is not the case. The men that showed up were only coming to a show that they got free passes to go to. That imo is entrapment.

[StangerBanger96]

Used;193265 wrote:
That imo is entrapment.

Look up the definition of entrapment...it would be entrapment if the police told a bunch of minors to come to a party and drink booze. It would be entrapment if the police told a bunch of people to go somewhere and murder people...entrapment is asking, forcing, or giving someone the "go ahead" to commit a crime and then charging them for that crime. There was no entrapment here.

[Guest]

You are correct Dustin.

[dubbsy]

Used;193265 wrote:
With undercovers the people that they are associated with have to be involved in an illegal endeavor. The cops told them to come here free show/party which is not true. Now if there was an show there that would have been completely true which is not the case. The men that showed up were only coming to a show that they got free passes to go to. That imo is entrapment.

They got everything the were promised right down to the complimentary photo and gift bag (the booking photo and empty paper bag).