"Sicko".....just finished watching it..
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Thread resurrection! lol I found this video pretty interesting. It's a 20/20 special called "sick in America". It's done by John Stossel, which is an admitted Libertarian, so you know where he's coming from. He interviews Moore and overall does a very interesting program about the US health care problems. There are 6 parts.
DaveH
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DaveH;198370 wrote:
Thread resurrection! lol I found this video pretty interesting. It's a 20/20 special called "sick in America". It's done by John Stossel, which is an admitted Libertarian, so you know where he's coming from. He interviews Moore and overall does a very interesting program about the US health care problems. There are 6 parts.Sounds interesting. I'll have to take a look at it when finals are over and I actually have free time.
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StangerBanger96;193480 wrote:
Why would you waste your time watching anything made by Michael Moore?+∞ x 10
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amicheze;193919 wrote:
No. Definitely not. Especially not since the country was founded on the right to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You can definitely have life without health care. Oh wait..I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but health care is not a right. You're taking the credo our country was founded upon out of context. We are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, so I should expect the government to allow me to live to 1,236 years old right? I don't mean to be a prick, but your statement makes no sense.
amicheze;193919 wrote:
Why exactly is their life expectancy higher than ours if we have so much better health care?The difference in life expectancy between two respective countries has A LOT more influences than just the quality of health care.
amicheze;193919 wrote:
Personally, I'd rather be able to see a doctor (make an appointment for) within 6 weeks than not at all. You can't be serious in thinking that if someone has an emergency, they'd have to wait 6 weeks to see one.Copied from another forum-
"I am a clinical cytogenetic technologist and I know that all healthcare, free or not, is NOT the same. Last year Mayo received some bone marrow samples from Canada for chromosomal analysis because the Canadian labs had over a 1 year backlog. In cancer cyto this is ridiculous. In America we shoot for a turn-around-time of 5-7 days on bone marrow samples. Thats a huge the difference! Sure you pay more in America, but say you have APL (a form of AML with some serious issues like bleeding and clotting at the same time) and you don't get fast and accurate cyto results you may easily die within a week of your bone marrow aspirate. If we come across this chromosome anomaly in the lab we immediately tell our director and they quickly deal with the results. Anyway, now that the info is out of the way back to Canada. I analyzed one of those year old patient samples from Canada and wouldn't you know it. I came across an APL result. When the director called the lab the patient was already dead. So to sum it up....I would rather owe 70,000 than be dead!"
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reshalghoul;199043 wrote:
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Originally Posted by amicheze
Why exactly is their life expectancy higher than ours if we have so much better health care?The difference in life expectancy between two respective countries has A LOT more influences than just the quality of health care.
Yep, the 20/20 show explained that there are more deaths in the USA due to car accidents, murder, etc. If you take out those statistics then the average American has a longer life expectancy.
DaveH
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DaveH;199048 wrote:
Yep, the 20/20 show explained that there are more deaths in the USA due to car accidents, murder, etc. If you take out those statistics then the average American has a longer life expectancy.Good post.
Yes, these facts and other things can be quickly overlooked in order to make a push for socialized health care. If it works in a country with 1/10 the population and no national debt - why can't it work here? </sarcasm> Many-a-liberal would say our murder rate is due to the higher number of guns per capita we have versus other countries around the world as well. This is due to the definitive fact that inanimate objects have a nasty habit of killing people. Just last night I was almost strangled by a gun I own. Pesky critters those killing machines are. </sarcasm again>
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