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  • GoodnbuzzdG Offline
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    Goodnbuzzd
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    I figured last time i did a tune-up on my car id go with some decent plugs, apparently Bosch Platinums arent that great. So i noticed a rattle in the engine of my Mercedes Before i parked it for the winter, i tried and tried to locate the source, checked the timing chain (a known weak link in the 2.3's), that was good, check clearances, not an issue. For the life of me i couldnt find the cause. this morning i decided to do a tune-up on the car and...... Holy Shit !!! i found the problem, The whole electrode, porcelin and all are gone out of the no2 plug!!! No more 'high quality' Bosh Platinums for me. Uggh i dont want to remove the head, Just because a Fu%^ing cheap ass spark plug, im sure it wasnt nice to the piston and head. I guess at least i have a fallback, a spare engine.

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    • GrrG Offline
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      I would like to take this moment, for all youz that dont know, to say:
      NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE PLATINUM PLUGS
      seriously, that is all, Use standard NGKs or go away
      Gary

      2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
      2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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      • 3_Series3 Offline
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        3_Series
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        Grr;199281 wrote:
        Use standard NGKs or go away
        I have Denso Iridiums and they work great. Would be even better if I was boosted.

        2002 Subaru Legacy
        1993 BMW 325i (sold)

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        • GoodnbuzzdG Offline
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          Goodnbuzzd
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          Grr;199281 wrote:
          I would like to take this moment, for all youz that dont know, to say:
          NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE PLATINUM PLUGS
          seriously, that is all, Use standard NGKs or go away
          Gary

          Well, I know they are a "NoNo" In turbo cars, But not everyone knows what you know about them apparently! and ngk's are sitting on my desk right now :icon_shaking:

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          • K Offline
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            KA-T_240
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            I run the $1.77 plugs(NGK) in my car wiht out problems. I also put them in my jeep.......

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            • bubbaB Offline
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              bubba
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              Lol, I could have told u they were junk. We sell them at work, but most of us refrain from letting people buy the bosch plugs.

              Current Cars:
              08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
              93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
              90 Honda CRX - Project car
              90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

              Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                dynotune
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                the scenario you have shown in the picture has nothing to do with the quality of the spark plug- it looks like it was too hot (like you got the wrong ones!) I am not a fan of the bosch plugs either, but this is an application problem, not a part failure

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                • kylushK Offline
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                  Bosch suck, i run NGK Iridiums and they work great!

                  1998 Z28 Camaro

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                  • RidinRailsR Offline
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                    i use denso iridums and they're great for $12 a piece ha

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                    • 3_Series3 Offline
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                      RidinRails;199312 wrote:
                      i use denso iridums and they're great for $12 a piece ha
                      I got mine new-in-box off of eBay for $48 (for 6 plugs). You do get what you pay for.

                      2002 Subaru Legacy
                      1993 BMW 325i (sold)

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                        dynotune;199308 wrote:
                        the scenario you have shown in the picture has nothing to do with the quality of the spark plug- it looks like it was too hot (like you got the wrong ones!) I am not a fan of the bosch plugs either, but this is an application problem, not a part failure

                        I agree with Andy on this one. I don't care what brand they are, I have seen EVERY major brand of spark plug fail in one way or another. (Some NGK's too). I'll lay money that the Platinum on the electrode had absolutely NOTHING to do with the failure of the plug. As to what caused it, that's up for debate but, dont blame "platinum" or "Bosh" for the problem.

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                        • K Offline
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                          KA-T_240
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                          anyone have any proven gains from there expensive ass plugs?

                          PM me for:
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                          Diesel repairs or performance products.

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                            Im not sure on gains. But I do recall someone having spark plug issues when boosting the shit out of their cars. I thought it was either Kevin or Burgess. It probably has nothing to do with wether they were platinum, but maybe they can chime in here.

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                              weshole;199335 wrote:
                              I agree with Andy on this one. I don't care what brand they are, I have seen EVERY major brand of spark plug fail in one way or another. (Some NGK's too). I'll lay money that the Platinum on the electrode had absolutely NOTHING to do with the failure of the plug. As to what caused it, that's up for debate but, dont blame "platinum" or "Bosh" for the problem.

                              I really dont think it is a heat issue, these also cross reference to the engine in the books, i have seen what lean conditions do to plugs and the remaining plugs have no sign of metal blowing away and are showing the nice tan or brownish coloring. also i have heard from other people about this problem with platinums in general before, but usually in turbo cars. i will agree that it may not necisarily be the fact that it is a platinum, but personally i beleive that the electrode/porcelain was defective. i have seen the bridges fall off of plugs before but for the whole electrode to fall out clear up to the metal casing isnide to me is odd.

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                                Goodnbuzzd;199350 wrote:
                                but personally i beleive that the electrode/porcelain was defective.

                                Based from my knowledge, I would be inclined to agree.

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                                • GoodnbuzzdG Offline
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                                  Goodnbuzzd
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                                  kinda dissapointing lol i have so much work and money in this car, i dont want to have to remove the head, but ...... what can ya do???

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                                  • K Offline
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                                    weshole;199340 wrote:
                                    Im not sure on gains. But I do recall someone having spark plug issues when boosting the shit out of their cars. I thought it was either Kevin or Burgess. It probably has nothing to do with wether they were platinum, but maybe they can chime in here.

                                    I had plug blow out, but that was my mistake. Stock plug gap while running 15+psi

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                                    • Afsil80A Offline
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                                      NGK FTW.

                                      It's what I run in my DD.

                                      -Peter

                                      1991 240SX
                                      legacy image

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                                        i wasnt saying that it being a platinum plug was the reason it failed, just the fact that platinums fail in general. Also, you guys that bought expensive ass iridium plugs, those suck too, ESPECIALLY in a boosted application, that is as big of a no-no as platinums. Look at what guys making 1500+hp are using, most are standard type plugs for a reason.
                                        Gary

                                        2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
                                        2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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                                          KA-T_240;199337 wrote:
                                          anyone have any proven gains from there expensive ass plugs?
                                          Last year when I put the turbos on Andy had me change the plugs at the same time. I never would of guessed the plugs would have given us a gain of 400+ hp:rolleyes:

                                          7.64 @ 187 3400 lbs. on KORN
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