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  • SPANISH-RICES Offline
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    imagine that

    here a psht, there psht, everywhere a psht psht
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    • 91nbtsi9 Offline
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      Make sure clutch is fully disengaging, change to a good fluid. That is about all you can do, less than getting tranny rebuilt.

      [email protected] -- DSM
      07 Mega Cab 5.9 CTD

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      • GrrG Offline
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        ALWAYS depress the clutch when shifting! Typical that someone doesnt know how to shift properly, about half of manual drivers cant drive one for shit. Powershifting manuals is only to be done with one that is desgned for it, i.e. a clutchless manual, dogbox, Liberty, Lenco, etc. If you do it in a DSM, you will fail at life and deserve the repair bills

        2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
        2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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        • roadracerR Offline
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          um, ok so ? dumb ass, smart ass, smart ass, smart ass, smart ass, and know it all. and yet, no one has offered up any real solutions or diagnosis. imagine that! man, you guys are sooooo knowledgeable. and any vehicle can be power shifted! any! evry vehicle i drive that has a clutch, i drive that way. you make no sense. not using the clutch increases your life span of the clutch. i shouldve known better than to ask for advise here.

          :ford: friends dont let friends apex early

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          • zbrownZ Offline
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            wtf you talking about

            jeremy just said make sure the clutch fully disengages the flywheel when the pedal is fully depressed

            sounds like it is dragging some, ....

            I highly doubt it is an actual tranny problem, if it were syncros it would shift for shit while at speed ... you say it shifts fine then..... well that is what i got out of it, you weren't too elaborate on a description

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            • GrrG Offline
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              roadracer;215743 wrote:
              um, ok so ? dumb ass, smart ass, smart ass, smart ass, smart ass, and know it all. and yet, no one has offered up any real solutions or diagnosis. imagine that! man, you guys are sooooo knowledgeable. and any vehicle can be power shifted! any! evry vehicle i drive that has a clutch, i drive that way. you make no sense. not using the clutch increases your life span of the clutch. i shouldve known better than to ask for advise here.

              Then your a fuckin retard, just like i said. If you have ever been inside a manual trans and saw the synchros you would not powershift it. Dumbfuck

              2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
              2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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              • BookemB Offline
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                roadracer;215743 wrote:
                any vehicle can be power shifted! any!
                Maybe

                evry vehicle i drive that has a clutch, i drive that way.
                Your vehicles, you drive how you want

                you make no sense. not using the clutch increases your life span of the clutch.
                And decreases the life of the trans

                Sad, but true. Some people go on their whole life thinking how you do, the others learn from their mistakes or others mistakes.

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                • 91nbtsi9 Offline
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                  roadracer;215743 wrote:
                  um, ok so ? dumb ass, smart ass, smart ass, smart ass, smart ass, and know it all. and yet, no one has offered up any real solutions or diagnosis. imagine that! man, you guys are sooooo knowledgeable. and any vehicle can be power shifted! any! evry vehicle i drive that has a clutch, i drive that way. you make no sense. not using the clutch increases your life span of the clutch. i shouldve known better than to ask for advise here.

                  WTF? You are an idiot.

                  [email protected] -- DSM
                  07 Mega Cab 5.9 CTD

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                    Agreed.... Your getting replies from people who have dealt w/ DSM's for 10 years, the comments are not smart ass or BS, its just the true facts of the matter.

                    "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                    "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                    • roadracerR Offline
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                      Grr;215792 wrote:
                      Then your a fuckin retard, just like i said. If you have ever been inside a manual trans and saw the synchros you would not powershift it. Dumbfuck

                      exactly what i would expect from people here. you have no clue as to who i am, but feel the need to insult me! dumbfuck, only your mother was to produce you! i am simply trying to help a young kid who asked me for advise. i said i would come here and see what kind of help i could get for him. and this is the bull shit you have to offer? this is why i i try not to come on here. nothing but bull shit, and bullies! this thread is car tech! wheres the tech?

                      :ford: friends dont let friends apex early

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                      • 3_Series3 Offline
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                        Someone got his butt hurt...

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                          The tech is the slave cyl, master cyl, synchros or trans are more then likely shot and need replacing. Its the DSM game start checking and replacing until its fixed.

                          "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                          "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                            roadracer;215860 wrote:
                            exactly what i would expect from people here. you have no clue as to who i am, but feel the need to insult me! dumbfuck, only your mother was to produce you! i am simply trying to help a young kid who asked me for advise. i said i would come here and see what kind of help i could get for him. and this is the bull shit you have to offer? this is why i i try not to come on here. nothing but bull shit, and bullies! this thread is car tech! wheres the tech?

                            Let's see.....Grr is one of the more knowledgable people on this site. 91nbtsi was the first DSM in town in the 10's. SLS (psi2hi) has built more DSM's that go fast than ANYONE in the area (9 second car fast enough for you???). Everyone knows that DSM tranny's are the weak point in their setup and placing any unneeded strain on them (clutchless shifting for example) is going to only cause problems.

                            No bullying, no bullshit, just straight up answers. Sorry if they weren't what you wanted to hear, but they are the truth.

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                              roadracer;215860 wrote:
                              exactly what i would expect from people here. you have no clue as to who i am, but feel the need to insult me! dumbfuck, only your mother was to produce you! i am simply trying to help a young kid who asked me for advise. i said i would come here and see what kind of help i could get for him. and this is the bull shit you have to offer? this is why i i try not to come on here. nothing but bull shit, and bullies! this thread is car tech! wheres the tech?

                              you are the jackass that wasn't even smart enough to know the help when it was given to you.

                              PSI2HI;215863 wrote:
                              The tech is the slave cyl, master cyl, synchros or trans are more then likely shot and need replacing. Its the DSM game start checking and replacing until its fixed.

                              There it is. Take it or leave it. Preferably leave it, and leave the site as well. Oh and please keep telling kids who want good advice that they can powershift/synchro shift their DSM's. Get em off the road faster...

                              97 GTi, 03 KJ

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                                PSI2HI;215863 wrote:
                                The tech is the slave cyl, master cyl, synchros or trans are more then likely shot and need replacing. Its the DSM game start checking and replacing until its fixed.

                                there! now somebody said something! thats what i was looking for. not" make sure pedal fully depressed", "change fluids".

                                :ford: friends dont let friends apex early

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                                  .

                                  There it is. Take it or leave it. Preferably leave it, and leave the site as well. Oh and please keep telling kids who want good advice that they can powershift/synchro shift their DSM's. Get em off the road faster...[/QUOTE]

                                  I probably will! i never said i told the kid topowershift, i said i do it! because i know how! we ant all be honda lovers!
                                  psi2hi, thank you for giving a better idea of what to look for. thats all i was looking for.

                                  :ford: friends dont let friends apex early

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                                    roadracer;215966 wrote:
                                    .

                                    There it is. Take it or leave it. Preferably leave it, and leave the site as well. Oh and please keep telling kids who want good advice that they can powershift/synchro shift their DSM's. Get em off the road faster...

                                    I probably will! i never said i told the kid topowershift, i said i do it! because i know how! we ant all be honda lovers!
                                    psi2hi, thank you for giving a better idea of what to look for. thats all i was looking for.[/QUOTE]

                                    actually the make sure the pedal was fully depressed was very DSM specific advice because when an aftermarket clutch is installed in a DSM, alot of the time you need a longer clutch slave cylinder rod, and if you dont have one, the car would act exactly like you said your friends car was.... So yea, we were trying to help...

                                    97 GTi, 03 KJ

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                                      roadracer;215965 wrote:
                                      there! now somebody said something! thats what i was looking for. not" make sure pedal fully depressed", "change fluids".

                                      I told you to make sure the clutch was disengaging fully; meaning the actual clutch, not the clutch pedal.

                                      PSI2HI gave you possible causes of the clutch not disengaging, same difference.

                                      Changing to a good fluid is important in these transmissions. GM synchromesh is a decent fluid that is commonly used to help the synchros out a bit.

                                      But, apparently I am just a know it all and wasn't trying to help you out.

                                      [email protected] -- DSM
                                      07 Mega Cab 5.9 CTD

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                                        I've had more 2G DSM experience than I wish. 2Gs don't have issues w/ the clutch not fully disengaging like the 1Gs did. They all use cables from the shifter to the trans, which is gay and sloppy. Like Nate said, switch to GM syncromesh, or Penzoil syncromesh, which is the same stuff, but cheaper. This should all be done and can all be found on the DSM VFAQ site: B&M short shifter, metal shifter plate bushings, Greddy counterweight shift knob, SS braided clutch fluid line and get rid of the fluid collection unit w/ that, remove the clutch fluid restricter inside of the slave cylinder. Of course if your slave or master cylinder are leaking, replace them. Make sure that there isn't a floor mat or something getting underneath the clutch pedal. When all this is done, it still won't shift that good because its a Mitsubishi transmission. Compared to other cars, their trannies are garbage, this has been proven time and time again. Like I said before, spend the money with Shep or TRE, thats your best bet.

                                        Troy
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