Obama and KFC on the same billboard?
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Tad218;226600 wrote:
Funny but I'm not sure anybody that plans on voting for Obama's opponent wants to talk about the taxpayers' money is spentStop Jocking Obama so hard.
I could care less what the money gets spent on -- it won't be on anything that helps me, so I'll vote for the guy that plans on stealing the least amount of it.
Obama on the other hand has promised to take more of my money and spend it on stuff that actively works against my interests.
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If Obama is taking MORE OF YOUR MONEY, good for you.
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^^^ lol.
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No sense in trying to debate points with ignorant people that don't know why they vote the way they do. Is it because your mommy and daddy voted that way? Or because Obama is half black? Outside of Dave, tjamz, and Jim, nothing but mindless idiots when it comes to politics on here. Keep up the pictures.
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Tad218;227602 wrote:
No sense in trying to debate points with ignorant people that don't know why they vote the way they do. Is it because your mommy and daddy voted that way? Or because Obama is half black? Outside of Dave, tjamz, and Jim, nothing but mindless idiots when it comes to politics on here. Keep up the pictures.How about this oh wise one...
You explain to ME why you think Obama is the best candidate, in your own words.
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integra_gsr98;227604 wrote:
How about this oh wise one...You explain to ME why you think Obama is the best candidate, in your own words.
I could do it...but this wasn't directed at me.
Right now the only argument I'm hearing for voting for McCain is because he isn't Obama. For some people that is enough, but I want to know what McCain plans on doing differently because it seems like he wants to stay the course that GWB has set forth already. In my (and many other peoples) opinion, that course is heading for economic collapse.
I think we've realized that neither party actually cuts gov't spending and likely never will, so looking at Government as a business (and no, I'm not trying to promote socialism in this point) who has the better business plan for balancing a budget?
Group "A" who is maxing out their lines of credit making themselves vulnerable to the whims of their lending agency....and makes their stock less valuable to others in the market (current Republican party)
Group "B" who raises the prices on the goods and services that they provide so that they can pay back their loans (Democratic Party)
If I were running a business, I'd MUCH rather be lumped into Group "B" than Group "A". Of course, ideally, you would want to be Group "C" who cuts spending wherever they can. Unfortunately in American Politics today, there is no Group "C" candidate that has a legitimate chance of winning the election.
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I've already stated the biggest reason I don't like Obama: he strongly beleives in the forceful redistribution of wealth via tax policy and other programs. Then I specifically mentioned that he plans on increasing my taxes. Perhaps in retort to me, Tad posted some silly CNN thing that I actually bothered to watch. It was titled "average taxes under each candidate" or something.
Well Tad, if you never learn anything else about me, understand that I am in no way average, so there's no reason to assume that whatever CNN thinks is "average" applies to me.
For instance, does CNN know what percentage of my total compensation package comes from stock transactions? And what has Obama specifically said he's going to do to capital gains taxation? [Hint: raise them]. Guess who that will affect negatively? Me. Does CNN include that in the "average" computation? How could they guess how much stock I'll be liquidating this year? How will they know how long I've held it?
Inspite of his tax increase plans (which, btw, -- federal revenue increases under lower taxes, at least since the Reagan administration. Raising taxes very often has the opposite effect on federal revenue), he still plans on spending more money on new or expanded shit than his Robin Hood taxes can pay for. Claiming that he's going to fix our budget is ridiculous -- He could have had a much larger impact on that while he actually had control of the budget as a senator, but in his few paltry years of "distinguished" service he has voted "present" (i.e.: i'm a fucking coward) more than anything else.
But since Tad thinks I'm an idiot, don't take my word for it... read it from the WSJ. Can you name two famously smart Democrats who lowered the capital gains rate? The WSJ can -- JFK and Clinton.. Guess what the #1 thing republicans grudglingly admit they liked about Clinton? The economy.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120735854234491599.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
I don't see how someone can be surprised that a person might not want to vote for Obama. In my case at least, I could care less what color or religion he is, and my dad certainly isn't the Ron Paul fan that I am, so it's definitely not parental influence. Obama has said that he wants to raise my taxes, that he wants me to have fewer options when it comes to guns, that I am not smart enough to make decisions for myself, and that he has some grand vision for my life.
Well, fuck him and the horse he rode in on. I want a government that lets me opt-out as much as possible. From that angle, every other candidate is a better choice than Obama. Ron Paul is the best candidate, and McCain is the unfortuneate choice given to people in our 2 party system.
As much as I want to write in Ron Paul, I need "not Obama" to win more, especially with the # of supreme court appointments coming up this time around. The DC Handgun ban case was only won on a 5-4 margin. We came 1 person away from losing the 2nd amendmen last month. The next POTUS will have multiple supreme court appointments, and letting that fall into the hands of someone like Obama, who with his every move wants to re-interpret the constitution in the name of populism, would accelerate the downward spiral of the US into a european style welfare state with no individual liberties outside of what society thinks is "normal".
That may be fine with a lot of people. It's not fine with me.
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thrash;227611 wrote:
I've already stated the biggest reason I don't like Obama: he strongly beleives in the forceful redistribution of wealth via tax policy and other programs. Then I specifically mentioned that he plans on increasing my taxes. Perhaps in retort to me, Tad posted some silly CNN thing that I actually bothered to watch. It was titled "average taxes under each candidate" or something.Well Tad, if you never learn anything else about me, understand that I am in no way average, so there's no reason to assume that whatever CNN thinks is "average" applies to me.
For instance, does CNN know what percentage of my total compensation package comes from stock transactions? And what has Obama specifically said he's going to do to capital gains taxation? [Hint: raise them]. Guess who that will affect negatively? Me. Does CNN include that in the "average" computation? How could they guess how much stock I'll be liquidating this year? How will they know how long I've held it?
Inspite of his tax increase plans (which, btw, -- federal revenue increases under lower taxes, at least since the Reagan administration. Raising taxes very often has the opposite effect on federal revenue), he still plans on spending more money on new or expanded shit than his Robin Hood taxes can pay for. Claiming that he's going to fix our budget is ridiculous -- He could have had a much larger impact on that while he actually had control of the budget as a senator, but in his few paltry years of "distinguished" service he has voted "present" (i.e.: i'm a fucking coward) more than anything else.
But since Tad thinks I'm an idiot, don't take my word for it... read it from the WSJ. Can you name two famously smart Democrats who lowered the capital gains rate? The WSJ can -- JFK and Clinton.. Guess what the #1 thing republicans grudglingly admit they liked about Clinton? The economy.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120735854234491599.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
I don't see how someone can be surprised that a person might not want to vote for Obama. In my case at least, I could care less what color or religion he is, and my dad certainly isn't the Ron Paul fan that I am, so it's definitely not parental influence. Obama has said that he wants to raise my taxes, that he wants me to have fewer options when it comes to guns, that I am not smart enough to make decisions for myself, and that he has some grand vision for my life.
Well, fuck him and the horse he rode in on. I want a government that lets me opt-out as much as possible. From that angle, every other candidate is a better choice than Obama. Ron Paul is the best candidate, and McCain is the unfortuneate choice given to people in our 2 party system.
As much as I want to write in Ron Paul, I need "not Obama" to win more, especially with the # of supreme court appointments coming up this time around. The DC Handgun ban case was only won on a 5-4 margin. We came 1 person away from losing the 2nd amendmen last month. The next POTUS will have multiple supreme court appointments, and letting that fall into the hands of someone like Obama, who with his every move wants to re-interpret the constitution in the name of populism, would accelerate the downward spiral of the US into a european style welfare state with no individual liberties outside of what society thinks is "normal".
That may be fine with a lot of people. It's not fine with me.
Mother fucking DOT
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And here's the short version for people who can't be bothered to read my long posts:
- Obama sucks at economics
- Wants to play Robin Hood, except he steals from people instead of corrupt sherrifs
- He thinks he knows what's best for everybody
- He hates the idea of people owning guns
- The next president of the US will get to nominate several SC justices
-- and we almost lost the 2nd amendment last month in a 5/4 supreme court decision
Conclusion: An obama presidency will mean a continued deterioration of the great experiment of American individual rights into the socialist european welfare state.
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