Bike Accident on 25th
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Slowica;236152 wrote:
The age limit of 14 might have been fine for you but theres a few different factors now days. Do you really trust a 14 or 15 year old girl in a big car full of friends and most likely texting to be fully compitent of whats going on around her? saying theres no mental differences between a 14 and 18 year old is ridiculous.If she was texting (YOUR assumption, not mine) then she is partially at fault. If you are texting while driving, that is stupid. Period. Big car...shit, what difference does that make? If he had hit a Smart he would be dead still...that doesn't mean shit. But yes, when my son is of age (still 12 years away) I fully expect that I will trust him with my vehicles...whether that be my Camry, Murano or WRX...or whatever I'm driving then.
I'm saying that there is not much mental difference as far as the "I'm invincible" factor between those ages. If there were, the accident would not have happened because the motorcyclist would have been driving at a speed that would have allowed him to avoid such a collision in the first place.
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reshalghoul;236146 wrote:
What you're failing to understand is that an 18-year-old driver will have three more years of experience in the seat versus a 15-year-old driver.Not if they don't start driving til they are 18...
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This doesn't make much sense to me. I ride, and when I see a vehicle pulling out from a side street, I do not speed up. I can't imagine he sped up and/or did a wheelie as she was entering the road in front of him. I use to have to take that exact same road she was on everyday, and I made it a point to sit and wait until I knew there was absolutely no traffic coming in my direction before I turned. This accident has a lot to do with driver/rider experience, and paying attention (or lack thereof).
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reshalghoul;236129 wrote:
The girl sure did get physically injured due to this accident didn't she? The argument that motorcyclists doing stupid shit risks the lives of others is pretty much totally bullshit, since 999 times out of 1000 the biker alone is the one that's injured/killed, especially when tangoing with a SUV + teenage driver.
I dont know if shes physically hurt, Im just goin by the assumption if I'm broad sided by maybe a bike running a red at 20 over the speed limit into my door, it's not going to turn out well for me either, especially the way my car is made.In the end, this all comes out to the risk of riding a motorcycle. Every biker knows(or atleast should know or they shouldn't be riding) the risk of being on a motorcycle. Whether its a Harley, BMW, crotch rocket, moped whatever. Hell even my buddy whos on here crashed a scooter cause somebody cut him off on a one way and he ended up paying severely because of it. No where close to his fault at all
And if I'm wrong on all of this, and the 15 yo girl...who I think is a road hazard don't get me wrong...DID pull out when she wasn't supposed to, then I think it's just a bad case of timing all along and she should have to take the blame. If he was dangerously speeding, then thats a whole nother topic.
Its the risk people take, that is all...and according to the witness reports, this guy had it all coming to him. No he doesnt deserve his life taken away for doin something stupid, but I won't grieve over it cause of what he did, and I didn't know him at all.
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I drive the road every single day. I am well aware of the intersection. He accelerated early and was traveling (by my estimate) 80mph on impact. Bikes can get to those speeds quickly, right? Is it not possible that he was distracted with doing something other than paying attention to the road in front of him (balancing maybe...staring at the speedo perhaps?) and just plain ol' fucked up.
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STiSchucky;236157 wrote:
but I won't grieve over it cause of what he did, and I didn't know him at all.i second that, i dont feel sorry for someone going 2 times (if not a bit more) the speed limit doing 'wheelies.'
ps I feel for his family, losing him at a young age, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for him
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I wanna know where you are all getting your information. Where did you see or hear that he was going 2x's the speed limit and that he ran a red light???? Before you start criticizing, you might want to have the FACTS.
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For the sake of argument.... Who let's a 22 year old drive a high performance motorcycle? That's insane! That much power could get himself killed! We need to raise the legal age to drive motorcycle so we don't see guys w/ too much testosterone trying to impress everybody as they ride a wheelie during rush hour! Maybe we should give them all estrogen pills to keep that in check.
See, it sounds dumb the other way too....
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TwistedAngel;236160 wrote:
I wanna know where you are all getting your information. Where did you see or hear that he was going 2x's the speed limit and that he ran a red light???? Before you start criticizing, you might want to have the FACTS.Ummm...I was in the Sunmart parking lot and saw him pull into a wheelie right around gate city bank...lost visual of him around KFC...heard the smack....I'd guess 80mph.
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tjamz;236158 wrote:
I drive the road every single day. I am well aware of the intersection. He accelerated early and was traveling (by my estimate) 80mph on impact. Bikes can get to those speeds quickly, right? Is it not possible that he was distracted with doing something other than paying attention to the road in front of him (balancing maybe...staring at the speedo perhaps?) and just plain ol' fucked up.Right. That's why I said this:
This accident has a lot to do with driver/rider experience, and paying attention (or lack thereof).
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TwistedAngel;236160 wrote:
I wanna know where you are all getting your information. Where did you see or hear that he was going 2x's the speed limit and that he ran a red light???? Before you start criticizing, you might want to have the FACTS.I get my information from Chuck...try and find a source MORE creditable regarding anything...i dare you.
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TwistedAngel;236165 wrote:
Right. That's why I said this:Having seen it, my opinion is that the girl just happened to be guilty of not being able to read minds. Nothing more.
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YellowEvo;236162 wrote:
guessing twisted angel is a dumbass who drives like that all the time... and just doesn't want to get flamed for it..Oh yeah. You got me! Actually, I'm a fking girl that rides a fking motorcycle, and have never and will never do a wheelie or anything other than just ride. GO F**K YOURSELF!
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TwistedAngel;236169 wrote:
Oh yeah. You got me! Actually, I'm a fking girl that rides a fking motorcycle, and have never and will never do a wheelie or anything other than just ride. GO F**K YOURSELF!how do i F**K?? never done that before maybe you can show me sometime.. :icon_puke_r:
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TwistedAngel;236160 wrote:
I wanna know where you are all getting your information. Where did you see or hear that he was going 2x's the speed limit and that he ran a red light???? Before you start criticizing, you might want to have the FACTS.
in-forum witnesses, tjamz, etc.where do you get your facts or why are you even trying to dispute ours?
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DelSlow;236167 wrote:
I get my information from Chuck...try and find a source MORE creditable regarding anything...i dare you.Really?? Are you just trying to get your post count up or what??
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TwistedAngel;236169 wrote:
Oh yeah. You got me! Actually, I'm a fking girl that rides a fking motorcycle, and have never and will never do a wheelie or anything other than just ride. GO F**K YOURSELF!
Why wont you do a wheelie? According to you, theyre practically safe, and everyone should try it. -
STiSchucky;236174 wrote:
Why wont you do a wheelie? According to you, theyre practically safe, and everyone should try it.And when exactly did I say this??:icon_scratch:
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