If Obama wins the election
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But when Bush's tax cuts expire in 2010, tax rates on ALL AMERICAN'S will go up...
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StangerBanger96;244533 wrote:
But when Bush's tax cuts expire in 2010, tax rates on ALL AMERICAN'S will go up...Lets hope the economy is somewhat stable by than.
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StangerBanger96;244533 wrote:
But when Bush's tax cuts expire in 2010, tax rates on ALL AMERICAN'S will go up...Out of context for sure...but the tax cuts for the lower 95% stay in place under obama's plan. He's stated that is his intent repeatedly and only those about $250,000 go up. Those from 200k to 250k stay the same. Those below that point get tax breaks.
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if obama wins....biden will soon later become president.
nuff said.
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RidinRails;244538 wrote:
if obama wins....biden will soon later become president.nuff said.
i hate to agree but we have to many rednecks in this country to disagree
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One of the reasons that im not going to vote for Obama is because yea, he's black. Because he is black, and was raised in a black family, i don't believe that he understands MY values, and my views, and where I am coming from. I do not think that he will do a good job of representing ME in the government, and in the world.
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Uhh...he was raised by a white family there heath. Raised by his white grandmother and white mother.
But you are right...he is 1/2 black.
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why should everyone care that he is black?....that is a bullshit reason to not vote for him, discrimination is retarded, childish, and just an all around stupid reason to not vote for him. Obama is probably the last chance at this country pulling itself back together....McCain however, he's just Bush with white hair.
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JN210;244549 wrote:
why should everyone care that he is black?....that is a bullshit reason to not vote for him, discrimination is retarded, childish, and just an all around stupid reason to not vote for him. Obama is probably the last chance at this country pulling itself back together....McCain however, he's just Bush with white hair.
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I think an interesting point is that the "250k" number has been getting lower and lower since it was last publicly mentioned. Now it's more like 120k, according to Bill Richardson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88ebXY2uaI
This is why it is important to understand Obama's goals and his history of dishonesty. It almost doesn't matter what he says "today" to a certain group at a certain time. He's just as likely to contradict it next time he talks, and when you look as hit ideology and worldview, it's clear where he's going.
If he thinks 250k is what will get Americans voting for him, that's what he'll say.
The Obama campaign is Grossly violating federal election laws. Some estimates suggest that over 60 MILLION contributed to the Obama campaign is fraudulent. Essentially, his website did no validation of address or name info when accepting credit card donations. Millions of dollars have come from overseas sources (which is illegal). Two guys i know each donated $5 using fake names, fake addresses, etc. Note that the payment gateway vendor that processes the CC transactions has to be complicit in this -- the Obama campaign is running with all the basic fraud prevention stuff shut off. Infact, one woman's cards were used to donate over 187,000 USD to the Obama campaign fraudulently. She had no idea that it had happened because the CC company never sent her a bill/notice of the obviously fraudulent activity.
Nobody cares. He'll break any law to win at any cost. It's digsuting. He shows contempt for the constitution, for the american work ethic, and for individual liberties as a concept.
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JN210;244549 wrote:
why should everyone care that he is black?....that is a bullshit reason to not vote for him, discrimination is retarded, childish, and just an all around stupid reason to not vote for him. Obama is probably the last chance at this country pulling itself back together....McCain however, he's just Bush with white hair.I think almost any Republican running for president was going to be compared to Bush. It's a strong defense for the democrats to use to put one of their own in the White House. They are exploiting Bush's low approval #s & some of the bad decisions he has made. But everyone makes mistakes... Even Obama admits in an interview, that he will probably make mistakes if elected.
I'm surprised on how much support he has considering his lack of experience. I mean he & Sarah Palin have about the same amount of experience... We don't hear much about this now since McCain chose Palin as a V-P and basically lost all rights (unless he wanted to be criticized) for exploiting Obama's inexperience. He was immediately criticized for it when he chose Palin, but since then, those remarks have disappeared.
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JN210;244549 wrote:
why should everyone care that he is black?....that is a bullshit reason to not vote for him, discrimination is retarded, childish, and just an all around stupid reason to not vote for him. Obama is probably the last chance at this country pulling itself back together....McCain however, he's just Bush with white hair.you fucking retarted fuck, read my gooddamn post. i said that i don't think he shares my values or beliefs and wouldn't do a good job of representing them. And if you are gonna keep pulling that "McCain is just Bush", uninformed bullshit, shut off MSNBC and GTFO.
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tjamz;244548 wrote:
Uhh...he was raised by a white family there heath. Raised by his white grandmother and white mother.But you are right...he is 1/2 black.
You are right Chuck!! And his was a mother "typical white person" <<<--- Obama Quote
i still don't think that he shares my values or beliefs, and would do a good job of representing ME.
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Parker;244561 wrote:
dosen't obama have a brother?Yes.. He is the coach of a college football team.. Can't remember what state.. Somewhere on the East coast. I wanted to say Pennsylvania.
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thrash;244557 wrote:
I think an interesting point is that the "250k" number has been getting lower and lower since it was last publicly mentioned. Now it's more like 120k, according to Bill Richardson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88ebXY2uaII think (didn't google this...just going off the top of my head here) that he was saying that in comparison to McCains tax plan (which doesn't do anything for tax relief under $120k IIRC) obama's plan is superior. I could be wrong, but a 12 second sound bite doesn't give enough resolution. If I'm wrong, I'll accept it as such, but his publicly stated (and as listed on his website) plan is $250,000 and under families (and under $200,000 singles) states that there will not be a tax increase on those people....
Another alternative to that soundcut that I have not researched is that there is possibly that window for single people making under $200k and more than $120k that would not see their taxes go either up or down.
Again, I'm throwing things out off the top of my head....and not googling anything on it.
This is why it is important to understand Obama's goals and his history of dishonesty. It almost doesn't matter what he says "today" to a certain group at a certain time. He's just as likely to contradict it next time he talks, and when you look as hit ideology and worldview, it's clear where he's going.
If he thinks 250k is what will get Americans voting for him, that's what he'll say.
You just described every politician in Washington for the most part.
The Obama campaign is Grossly violating federal election laws. Some estimates suggest that over 60 MILLION contributed to the Obama campaign is fraudulent. Essentially, his website did no validation of address or name info when accepting credit card donations. Millions of dollars have come from overseas sources (which is illegal). Two guys i know each donated $5 using fake names, fake addresses, etc. Note that the payment gateway vendor that processes the CC transactions has to be complicit in this -- the Obama campaign is running with all the basic fraud prevention stuff shut off. Infact, one woman's cards were used to donate over 187,000 USD to the Obama campaign fraudulently. She had no idea that it had happened because the CC company never sent her a bill/notice of the obviously fraudulent activity.
Then why is no one arresting him? If everything above is true, why has the FBI not raided his offices and seized his funds? Also, please site a source. I'm not saying i don't believe you, I just like to check the facts.
Nobody cares. He'll break any law to win at any cost. It's digsuting. He shows contempt for the constitution, for the american work ethic, and for individual liberties as a concept.
Ahh... come on, tell me how you REALLY feel.
I did a bit of research, you are right...someone is using credit cards illegally and sending the money to the obama campaign. Are there some people who are hired as telemarketers, etc.. that might do something like this? I'd love to say no, but I've personally caught people doing just that (though not for political campaigning) when I used to be a supervisor at a telemarketing firm years ago.
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GarageAlchemist;244560 wrote:
You are right Chuck!! And his was a mother "typical white person" <<<--- Obama Quotei still don't think that he shares my values or beliefs, and would do a good job of representing ME.
That is valid....but your reasoning of: because he grew up in a Black family and was raised by black people... to come to your conclusion is a bit off the mark I'd say.
IOW, it makes you seem uneducated.
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tjamz;244548 wrote:
Uhh...he was raised by a white family there heath. Raised by his white grandmother and white mother.But you are right...he is 1/2 black.
10% black more like it...
A funny situation my friend brought up...if the electoral college arrives at a dead tie for Obama/McCain, the house will vote the president. That will go to Obama. The senate will vote the vice president, that will go to a tie more than likely and Cheney will cast the deciding vote, making it an Obama/Palin ticket. Now THAT would be funny
Upon further research I find that would be wrong...it's the newley elected members that would vote so Cheney would NOT be casting the vote and we'd have president Pelosi...yuck
Some hick would off Obama within a year just so Palin became president.
Sidenote: Why is it that the press is constantly making it sound like Palin is in line to become president? She'd be the damn VP yet every single station seems to say "If she is to get elected president" or something along those lines...retarded.
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tjamz;244571 wrote:
That is valid....but your reasoning of: because he grew up in a Black family and was raised by black people... to come to your conclusion is a bit off the mark I'd say.IOW, it makes you seem uneducated.
That doesn't really make him uneducated.. I see the point he is trying to make. He feels that he would rather have someone run the country that more relates to him than someone that doesn't relate to him as much. Obviously in this instance, race isn't a factor but he is stereotyping. Obama grew up in a suburb community which most of us on here haven't grown up in a suburb community. Different values are set in place. We live our lives differently than those of a people who live in a suburb. Compare & contrast as much you would like, but one thing is for sure, they are not the same. (An example: Which place would you feel safer leaving your house or car unlocked.) Basically we live our lives differently...
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