Wanted 17,000 Apples
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ihaveaids;252182 wrote:
Then speaking from experience, they shouldn't last as long as they have.So your saying they should have went down the tubes along time ago because they don't smile ect.. Im sure that when people walk threw the door Jason is standing there saying "hey what can i help you with man" something like that or similar, i believe that 90% of the people that buy from them, go there cause the environment its a "real" place to be, not someone shoving BS down your throat saying this is the best on the market when they in reality don't know shit about the bogus tie they are wearing.
IMO pretty sure id rather walk into a business's door and get punched in the fucking face than have a cheesy ass smile thrown at me...
/rant
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I am a cheesy ass car salesman and trust me for how much the retail customer mess with you and lies to my face it does get old after awhile...Its the same in any retail situation for ever good customer you have 5 bad ones like the ones that come in and waste time and drive vehicles just to drive it and waste gas and fuck with us.I think anybody that works in retail would agree with me.The one thing to remember is that everone is trying to make a living and in this market for all of us we have to be competitive on pricing, as for TM you are paying for more than the part anybody would have to agree that they are smart,they have answers if you ask they might be a couple more dollars on a product but you get a sweet warranty with your purchase.There is alot more to business behind the scene that people dont know about ,think about or care about.
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I love how people rip on these other stores in this thread but i suppose thats different, right?
Personally id rather go to site on sounds for audio, or Team. If i buy go fast parts, ill get them online. If i buy oil, it'll be Walmart (mobile 1 is cheap there)...... Ill go to TM's for tint and thats about it.
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DelSlow;252212 wrote:
I love how people rip on these other stores in this thread but i suppose thats different, right?Personally id rather go to site on sounds for audio, or Team. If i buy go fast parts, ill get them online. If i buy oil, it'll be Walmart (mobile 1 is cheap there)...... Ill go to TM's for tint and thats about it.
For once I actually agree with DelSlow lol
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When I first moved up here, and didnt really know anyone I had went to TM a couple times and didnt really get the time of day from anyone there (no offense jason and the rest of the guys). I can kinda see why though... If someone comes in you can usually tell if they are planning on buying anything or are seriously looking, and if they are not, most of the time there's no point in helping them, while u can be doing something else to make money (not that I agree with that but it's logical). Now that i've gotten to know them, I get treated pretty well there... They are expensive on some things, but i've found they have had some good deals on stuff. If they are cheaper or barely more on a price, i'll order it from them, if not i'll get it somewhere's else...
As for MAPerformance, like inspector said, they are actually a large and reputable local shop (in the cities)... They arent some cheap internet place, hell they have a 9sec 1000hp FD with a 4G63 in it... I've heard a lot of good, and no bad about them.
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bubba;252216 wrote:
When I first moved up here, and didnt really know anyone I had went to TM a couple times and didnt really get the time of day from anyone there (no offense jason and the rest of the guys). I can kinda see why though... If someone comes in you can usually tell if they are planning on buying anything or are seriously looking, and if they are not, most of the time there's no point in helping them, while u can be doing something else to make money (not that I agree with that but it's logical). Now that i've gotten to know them, I get treated pretty well there... They are expensive on some things, but i've found they have had some good deals on stuff. If they are cheaper or barely more on a price, i'll order it from them, if not i'll get it somewhere's else...As for MAPerformance, like inspector said, they are actually a large and reputable local shop (in the cities)... They arent some cheap internet place, hell they have a 9sec 1000hp FD with a 4G63 in it... I've heard a lot of good, and no bad about them.
not to mention the best tuner in the tri-state area.
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bubba;252235 wrote:
If you're talking about Jordan (Consumate Tuning), i've heard good and bad about him... He did a good job on Josh's hatch though...yes jordan, he tuned there FD, he tuned his brother s2k that has 600+hp and i beleive is the fastest s2k in the US, and many other high HP cars.
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RidinRails;252238 wrote:
yes jordan, he tuned there FD, he tuned his brother s2k that has 600+hp and i beleive is the fastest s2k in the US, and many other high HP cars.Something like the fastest DD S2K or something like that.... Which was for sale a while back for $24k, which isnt all that bad...
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its at 21k now...the engine alone is worth 3/4 of that probably haha
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RidinRails;252238 wrote:
yes jordan, he tuned there FD, he tuned his brother s2k that has 600+hp and i beleive is the fastest s2k in the US, and many other high HP cars.jon andrew brought his car there and got a "mild" tune i guess is the best way to put it .he put out 360
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I have not found my apples yet! I have however found spaghetti O's!
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Ok...I rejoined just to get into this argument.
Tintmasters has a shop/bldg they need to pay for. They have multiple full time employees. They provide a service beyond "Click-here, pay now". They aren't perfect and certainly won't make everyone happy, but no one will really.
If you aren't willing to support your local shops, don't bitch when you don't have a place to race next year or when the "scene" collapses around town. Also, don't let one experience of them not being able to beat a price get you down about them as a whole. They buy from legitimate sources, provide a legitimate warranty and are going to stand behind their work....sometimes you will find that killer deal online that you feel you need to take advantage of. I think I can speak for tintmasters when I say that they won't hold your decision to do business elsewhere from time to time against you. Now if you come in copping and attitude about "well, I can get xyz part cheaper elsewhere...." you may get blown off....if you go in and say "hey guys, I really want to buy from you, but there is a website selling these products insanely cheap, can you beat/come close to their prices..." you are much more likely to get a favorable response. Also, just because they are more expensive on one thing, don't automatically assume they are more expensive on everything. They get special deals from their vendors from time to time as well.
Keep in mind that not every store/shop pays the same price for things from vendors. Right now, I am on the best plan with a couple of my vendors (direct w/ company) so I get deals that the next guy won't...but yet I find the same products online for LESS than I pay at the super preferred rate. How is this possible? Only 3 ways:
Other dealer bought out the inventory of another failing shop at below cost (grey market) -or-
Online dealer is dealing in stolen product (Black market) -or-
Online dealer is dealing in counterfeit product (Grey/Black market)Do you really want to do business with someone doing the above activities?
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Trafik Jamz;252302 wrote:
Ok...I rejoined just to get into this argument.Tintmasters has a shop/bldg they need to pay for. They have multiple full time employees. They provide a service beyond "Click-here, pay now". They aren't perfect and certainly won't make everyone happy, but no one will really.
If you aren't willing to support your local shops, don't bitch when you don't have a place to race next year or when the "scene" collapses around town. Also, don't let one experience of them not being able to beat a price get you down about them as a whole. They buy from legitimate sources, provide a legitimate warranty and are going to stand behind their work....sometimes you will find that killer deal online that you feel you need to take advantage of. I think I can speak for tintmasters when I say that they won't hold your decision to do business elsewhere from time to time against you. Now if you come in copping and attitude about "well, I can get xyz part cheaper elsewhere...." you may get blown off....if you go in and say "hey guys, I really want to buy from you, but there is a website selling these products insanely cheap, can you beat/come close to their prices..." you are much more likely to get a favorable response. Also, just because they are more expensive on one thing, don't automatically assume they are more expensive on everything. They get special deals from their vendors from time to time as well.
Keep in mind that not every store/shop pays the same price for things from vendors. Right now, I am on the best plan with a couple of my vendors (direct w/ company) so I get deals that the next guy won't...but yet I find the same products online for LESS than I pay at the super preferred rate. How is this possible? Only 3 ways:
Other dealer bought out the inventory of another failing shop at below cost (grey market) -or-
Online dealer is dealing in stolen product (Black market) -or-
Online dealer is dealing in counterfeit product (Grey/Black market)Do you really want to do business with someone doing the above activities?
I cant believe it took this long...
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Trafik Jamz;252302 wrote:
Ok...I rejoined just to get into this argument.Tintmasters has a shop/bldg they need to pay for. They have multiple full time employees. They provide a service beyond "Click-here, pay now". They aren't perfect and certainly won't make everyone happy, but no one will really.
If you aren't willing to support your local shops, don't bitch when you don't have a place to race next year or when the "scene" collapses around town. Also, don't let one experience of them not being able to beat a price get you down about them as a whole. They buy from legitimate sources, provide a legitimate warranty and are going to stand behind their work....sometimes you will find that killer deal online that you feel you need to take advantage of. I think I can speak for tintmasters when I say that they won't hold your decision to do business elsewhere from time to time against you. Now if you come in copping and attitude about "well, I can get xyz part cheaper elsewhere...." you may get blown off....if you go in and say "hey guys, I really want to buy from you, but there is a website selling these products insanely cheap, can you beat/come close to their prices..." you are much more likely to get a favorable response. Also, just because they are more expensive on one thing, don't automatically assume they are more expensive on everything. They get special deals from their vendors from time to time as well.
Keep in mind that not every store/shop pays the same price for things from vendors. Right now, I am on the best plan with a couple of my vendors (direct w/ company) so I get deals that the next guy won't...but yet I find the same products online for LESS than I pay at the super preferred rate. How is this possible? Only 3 ways:
Other dealer bought out the inventory of another failing shop at below cost (grey market) -or-
Online dealer is dealing in stolen product (Black market) -or-
Online dealer is dealing in counterfeit product (Grey/Black market)Do you really want to do business with someone doing the above activities?
I appreciate you taking the time to write all that. Being you are in business (along with Jake), you both understand retail and how it has evolved into 'you have to compete with internet pricing or you are a 'rip off'. There are a few on this site that will never shop here, and I already said I accept that. We will continue to do what we do, and hopefully be here to help host events around the area for many years to come. This thread honestly needs no further input.
Thanks Chuck/Jake.
- Jason
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