2nd Amendment loss-- Eric Holder confirmation hearing happening RIGHT NOW. CALL DC
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I am an obama supporter, not because I'm an obama nut swinger, but because I feel he was the lesser of two evils as far as presidential candidates.
now with that being said, I'm going to stick with my original stance of no reason to panic over something that hasn't happened yet and is 100% SPECULATION. If and when Obama comes knocking on our doors to take away our guns, I will then blame him/his staff 100%, but until then I'm just not going to give a shit.
Oh and those weren't his parents that the swat team took him from, and it was janet reno who told swat to do it.
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darkelvis;255972 wrote:
now with that being said, I'm going to stick with my original stance of no reason to panic over something that hasn't happened yet and is 100% SPECULATION. If and when Obama comes knocking on our doors to take away our guns, I will then blame him/his staff 100%, but until then I'm just not going to give a shit.Congrats on admitting that you'd rather sit on your ass, get spoon fed your daily dose of shit from the media and do nothing about it, than be an upstanding citizen and exercise your 1st Amendment rights.
-Peter
1991 240SX
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I love how everyone is like no that won't happen... I'm sure ppl thought that in the 90's when clinton did his assault weapons ban... It can and has a big probability of happening.... I just have to say they best not knock on my door and try to take mine....
Take away people's arms, then they can't defend themselves... Then the government can pretty much do whatever they want...
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Afsil80;255988 wrote:
Congrats on admitting that you'd rather sit on your ass, get spoon fed your daily dose of shit from the media and do nothing about it, than be an upstanding citizen and exercise your 1st Amendment rights.My first amendment rights give me the right to say that this is 100% bullshit and is being overhyped my the media that you claim is spoon feeding me the daily dose of bullshit. NO ONE IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS. If by the .0000000001% chance the government does come to your house and make you hand them over then I have no problems with people starting a revolution (or whatever else they think they are going to do), because, yes, it is your right to own guns, and no one, I REPEAT-NO ONE, is going to take them away from you.
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darkelvis;256019 wrote:
My first amendment rights give me the right to say that this is 100% bullshit and is being overhyped my the media that you claim is spoon feeding me the daily dose of bullshit. NO ONE IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS. If by the .0000000001% chance the government does come to your house and make you hand them over then I have no problems with people starting a revolution (or whatever else they think they are going to do), because, yes, it is your right to own guns, and no one, I REPEAT-NO ONE, is going to take them away from you.
you say no one is going to take them away, but yet you give it a .0000000001% chance that they are... and in that case, makes you a liar..... -
Also it isn't that they are going to take them away, it is a constant eroding of the undeniable rights put down on paper by our founding fathers. Little by little they take it away, whether it is with registration, waiting periods, permits to purchase, complete bans of certain weapons, etc.
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sadly i recently lost all my guns in a tragic boating accident.
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integra_gsr98;256026 wrote:
Also it isn't that they are going to take them away, it is a constant eroding of the undeniable rights put down on paper by our founding fathers. Little by little they take it away, whether it is with registration, waiting periods, permits to purchase, complete bans of certain weapons, etc.good post gsr
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bubba;256008 wrote:
Take away people's arms, then they can't defend themselves... Then the government can pretty much do whatever they want...what are you going to do, shoot them?
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This is a copy/paste and not my words/opinions necessarily. I am putting these out only for the purpose of full disclosure:
**> Eric Holder has always been a strong supporter of gun control. From his Weekly Briefing on March 20, 2000 (available on Lexis.com
I want to add my voice to those who are calling on Congress to finally -- to finally -- pass these very common-sense gun measures. First, to require child safety locks for all handguns that are sold. Second, to ban violent juveniles from ever having the ability to own guns. Third, to pass the president's handgun licensing proposal, which requires safety certification for all handgun purchasers. More... Fourth, to support research in smart-gun technology, which can limit a gun's use to its authorized owner. And finally, to close the gun show loop hole by requiring a background check for all gun purchases at gun shows. Every day that goes by, about 12, 13 more children in this country die from gun violence. We need these common-sense measures and we need them now.**and
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Attorney General-designate Eric Holder conceded during his confirmation hearing Thursday that the government's options for regulating the possession of firearms have been narrowed in the wake of the Supreme Court's 2008 ruling that the Second Amendment ensures an individual right to bear arms.
"Reasonable restrictions are still possible," Holder said, including measures such as a ban on the sale of what are called "cop-killer" bullets.
But, he granted, "we're living in a different world" since the high court's 5-4 ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller.
Holder said that he previously viewed the Second Amendment as a "collective right" to bear arms, not an individual right.
The Heller ruling, Holder said, was a "very significant opinion."
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if you feel like you have to carry a gun around for protection you should make a new set of friends and refrain from dealing coke.
if i cant smoke a cig in a vented glass box at the petro with my dad when he is in town anymore you cant own an assault rifle. sounds fair to me.
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24valvenotak;256220 wrote:
if you feel like you have to carry a gun around for protection you should make a new set of friends and refrain from dealing coke.if i cant smoke a cig in a vented glass box at the petro with my dad when he is in town anymore you cant own an assault rifle. sounds fair to me.
Your smoking harms others, not just yourself anytime you are around someone. A rifle locked in a safe does nothing to anybody unless the person pulling the trigger decides to harm someone.
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integra_gsr98;256225 wrote:
Your smoking harms others, not just yourself anytime you are around someone. A rifle locked in a safe does nothing to anybody unless the person pulling the trigger decides to harm someone.Yeah, but you have a choice to go sit in a smoke filled room vs. getting mowed down at a school, mall, gas station...etc
Not saying I agree with banning guns...but theres another side to the story. The ban on ARs is to protect other people, what is the ban on smoking for?
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Criminals will be criminals, regardless of what tools they have available to them.
Smoking kills people, period. That smoke filled room might have a waitress who has to work inside of it who does not smoke, why should she have to suffer the potential consequences? Also, the government did not issue an executive order banning smoking, the PEOPLE voted to ban smoking. If more smokers wanted to smoke inside, more of them should have voted against it.
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integra_gsr98;256225 wrote:
Your smoking harms others, not just yourself anytime you are around someone. A rifle locked in a safe does nothing to anybody unless the person pulling the trigger decides to harm someone.not if you have a choice to work the smoking section, it has doors that open and shut by motion, and the room has an air exchanger in it.
sounds harmless to me. less harmless then a felon with a gun.
[QUOTE=integra_gsr98;256230]Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Criminals will be criminals, regardless of what tools they have available to them.
If more smokers wanted to smoke inside, more of them should have voted against it.[QUOTE=integra_gsr98;256230]so im voting to ban guns.
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24valvenotak;256232 wrote:
sounds harmless to me. less harmless then a felon with a gun.Again you post a reason that anti's ideas for gun control DO NOT work and only harm law abiding citizens. Felons lose their right to own/possess weapons. A felon with a gun is already committing a crime before they even do anything else.
Stopping law abiding citizens from owning weapons does nothing to lower the crime rate. Instead you wind up with places like Chicago.
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integra_gsr98;256233 wrote:
Again you post a reason that anti's ideas for gun control DO NOT work and only harm law abiding citizens. Felons lose their right to own/possess weapons. A felon with a gun is already committing a crime before they even do anything else.Stopping law abiding citizens from owning weapons does nothing to lower the crime rate. Instead you wind up with places like Chicago.
people voted to hurt businesses by banning smoking. thats taking away my right as a law abiding citizen to open a bar and allow smoking. why can YOU tell ME how to run MY business? why cant i allow people to smoke and tell non smokers to find somewhere else to go if they dont like it?
whatever, if you feel like owning guns and shooting them at dirt is supercool indulge yourself by all means. but dont be mad when someone breaks into your house and kills you with it.
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